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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:44 
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Gran's 41mph Speed Rap For Mobility Scooter

A grandmother has been sent a speeding ticket accusing her of travelling at 41mph - on a mobility scooter.

Janice Carrick was told a roadside camera had clocked her breaking the 30mph limit on her Meyra electric scooter.

The 12-volt vehicle has a top speed of just 8mph.

At the time her scooter was in for repairs and she was at a hospital appointment almost 40 miles away.

It is thought the mix-up may have resulted from someone cloning a number plate and it is understood police are investigating.

Miss Carrick, 53, who suffers hearing and mobility problems, uses the scooter to go shopping from her home in Denaby, near Doncaster, South Yorkshire.

However, she received a fixed penalty notice from police telling her there was photographic evidence of her speeding in Otley Road, Leeds.

She told the Rotherham Advertiser: "I normally never go further than Mexborough or Conisbrough for my shopping.

"I'd need to make a few modifications to my scooter to be able to get to Leeds, let alone travel at 41mph."

West Yorkshire's Safety Casualty Reduction Partnership has re-examined the vehicle photographed.

It found the vehicle involved was not a four-wheel electric mobility scooter.

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It is thought the mix-up may have resulted from someone cloning a number plate ...

Do mobility scooters have numberplates?

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... she received a fixed penalty notice from police telling her there was photographic evidence of her speeding...

Given the later comments this is actually a lie.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 13:35 
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Mechanically propelled invalid carriages that are constructed or adapted to be capable of exceeding a speed of 4mph but incapable of exceeding a speed of 8mph on the level under its own power (generally powered wheelchairs and other outdoor vehicles including scooters are intended for use on public roads/highways). They must be fitted with a device capable of limiting the maximum speed to 4mph when used travelling on footways. The unladen weight must not exceed 150 kgs. These are required to be registered and licensed with DVA.

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Mechanically propelled invalid carriages that are constructed or adapted to be capable of exceeding a speed of 4mph but incapable of exceeding a speed of 8mph on the level under its own power (generally powered wheelchairs and other outdoor vehicles including scooters are intended for use on public roads/highways). They must be fitted with a device capable of limiting the maximum speed to 4mph when used travelling on footways. The unladen weight must not exceed 150 kgs. These are required to be registered and licensed with DVA.



Ja .. but this thing allegedly pinged at 44 mph :?

By the way .. apart from a slight difference of opinion over a bayonet once upon a time in Appenzell many year ago now. .. my only other negative brush with law was about "racing along at 12 mph in wheelchair trying to rein in William/Nick und Steff as feisty toddlers :yikes:

Many a mobility scooter or powered wheelchair need not be registered,

I also know that Jazz who look after wheelchair bound maiden aunt und Ju-Ju who has disabled child due to childhood meningitis . have some power motor which they attach to bogstandard foldy travel wheelchair. This can be tuned to 8 mph . too, Legally, apparently :popcorn: As some of us walk at such pace. :wink:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8017391.stm

look at the speed of the farmer towards the end

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Ja .. but this thing allegedly pinged at 44 mph :?

Brick walls have been recorded at 58mph by the LTI 2020, so she had a result really.

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http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/invalid_vehicles.aspx?ext=dg

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Brick walls have been recorded at 58mph by the LTI 2020, so she had a result really.

and brick walls make better conversationalists than some MPs :twisted:

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Class 3 invalid carriages need to be registered for road use, be licensed in the "disabled" taxation class and display a nil duty tax disc. Unlike ordinary cars, invalid carriages do not need to provide evidence of VED exemption when licensing in the disabled class. Also, they are exempt from paying the first registration fee and are not required to display registration plates.


So the stuff about cloned number plates is another lie. So how the hell did this happen?

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It's not a lie, it's a mistake.
Like when the local mob issued me a ticket for using a mobile while driving a vehicle I sold 6 months previously.
I returned their notice and filled-in that the vehicle was no longer mine, and I had the dvla letter informing me the re-registration had taken place which I enclosed a copy of.
They then told me that the new owner had not told dvla...I told them that was untrue because he lived 100 metres from me, and that I had already told him that it was a scam to get around the 14 day limit. Neither of us heard from them again.
Unfortunately, in the hunt for cash truth takes the back seat.
Don't forget, by 2050 there will not be enough money from taxation to pay the public service pensions AND pensions for "ordinary" people.
We now have over 6 million people directly and indirectly employed by/for government, which figure is getting higher by the week.
Pensions (public service) cost £168,000,000,000 last year. The "black hole) (the pension cost for those public servants retired now, and employed now) (not counting new employees) is £1,000,000,000,000. Many now have contributions deducted from their pay, which goes to pay those already retired. You work it out.
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Class 3 invalid carriages need to be registered for road use, be licensed in the "disabled" taxation class and display a nil duty tax disc. Unlike ordinary cars, invalid carriages do not need to provide evidence of VED exemption when licensing in the disabled class. Also, they are exempt from paying the first registration fee and are not required to display registration plates.


So the stuff about cloned number plates is another lie. So how the hell did this happen?



I don't get it. The car was pinged in Leeds and they say it is a car and not a scooter.

Had this lady owned this vehicle and sold it on. but DVLA forgot to update records - which meant the NIP sent to her as RK on their records?

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I wonder if a class 3 mobillity scooter is given a registration number but it is not required to be displayed or a tax disc displayed?

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You know what taxation rates are going to be in 2050?

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You know what taxation rates are going to be in 2050?

Well there sure as $hit won't be a reduction between now & then.

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Don't forget, by 2050 there will not be enough money from taxation to pay the public service pensions AND pensions for "ordinary" people.


You know what taxation rates are going to be in 2050?

Well there sure as $hit won't be a reduction between now & then.


Old Yorkshire saying ..

There's nowt as certain as death and taxes.. :popcorn:

By the way . thee cannot argue wi' one from God's own country! :lol:




Then I married a woman from Appenzell.. an area which has a similar reputation of genetically programmed stubborn :censored: s ... Ooops.

But back to the topic.. Wildy has not had many brushes with the law (apart from some nonsense about bayonets... votes for wimmin .. back in late 80s in her own country)

But she once got told off by a police for "speeding at over 8 mph when in a wheelchair during the recovery stages of that "black hole" incident all those years ago.


She was with the three eldest .. then toddlers of 2 years and 4 years. It seems William and our first set of twins - Nick and Steffi - decided to head off towards the lake when in Ambleside. WIldy hurtled after them at a fair rate. I think she was in the manual one and she could certainly get up o a faster speed than in the powered one . which she had also "meddled with" :lol:

So the law about wheelchairs/electrically powered wheelchairs and now the mobility scooter has always existed.

This case? Still cannot work out how come the lady received a NIP unless she had once owned a car with that registration.

The whole problem with the rogue scooter users seems to be that they are fairly untraceable as few have registration number plates. Ju-Ju has a fold up version of this for her son (disabled due to childhood meningitis) as does Jazz .. or rather the elderly aunt she looks after .. does.

They do not have to have number plates on these


Jazz and Ju-Ju are my sisters who live in the Worsley area of Manchester. I know Claire has met one of them. Both are teachers and both are trainee magistrates. They thus comply with the law absolutely as this will undermine their current training as wannabe "pillocks of the establishment" .:popcorn: (I joke .. lest our resident magistrate gets upset)

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