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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 14:25 
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Is this the way forward to ease congestion? Vehicles with two or more passengers are allowed to travel in a special lane. It seems to be a Pernament fixture on the Long Ashton Bypass. Can't think of any other Cities where this Is running?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4302731.stm :) :)

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 Post subject: Re: Passenger Lane
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Is this the way forward to ease congestion? Vehicles with two or more passengers are allowed to travel in a special lane. It seems to be a Pernament fixture on the Long Ashton Bypass. Can't think of any other Cities where this Is running?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4302731.stm :) :)


HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle) lanes were initially tested on the A647 Stanningley Road in Leeds. AFAIK it still operates there. This link explains it all.
Also this link.

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Derick wrote:
Is this the way forward to ease congestion? Vehicles with two or more passengers are allowed to travel in a special lane. It seems to be a Pernament fixture on the Long Ashton Bypass. Can't think of any other Cities where this Is running?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4302731.stm :) :)


I met one in Bradford last week...

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IanH wrote:

HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle) lanes were initially tested on the A647 Stanningley Road in Leeds. AFAIK it still operates there.


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I met one in Bradford last week...


Is there something about Yorkshire & these HOV Lanes?

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Used to be one on the Bristol ring road, though I've not been that way for 4 or 5 years. They want to trial one on the M3, I think between J4 and J2 (Frimley and M25 interchange), but due to the morning queues being about ten miles long these days there there's still some head scratching going on. Last suggestion I heard, and being seriously considered as well, was to use the hard shoulder as a fourth lane :shock: . That's a stretch of motorway ten or so miles in length with no hard shoulder... barking. The hard shoulder is needed for emergencies and they want to do away with it. How many times do emergency vehicles find it handy to nip up the shoulder to get to an incident quickly? What about the breakdown companies who would otherwise have their operators working in L1 (and working on the hard shoulder sounds dangerous enough). Or the lorry driver who died after a brick was chucked through his windscreen but managed to get his artic safely on the hard shoulder - that was on the same stretch of the M3 that they want to try the HOV lane on. Imagine how much worse that incident could have been if the poor driver had no hard shoulder to go to.

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Last suggestion I heard, and being seriously considered as well, was to use the hard shoulder as a fourth lane :shock: . That's a stretch of motorway ten or so miles in length with no hard shoulder... barking. The hard shoulder is needed for emergencies and they want to do away with it. How many times do emergency vehicles find it handy to nip up the shoulder to get to an incident quickly? What about the breakdown companies who would otherwise have their operators working in L1 (and working on the hard shoulder sounds dangerous enough). Or the lorry driver who died after a brick was chucked through his windscreen but managed to get his artic safely on the hard shoulder - that was on the same stretch of the M3 that they want to try the HOV lane on. Imagine how much worse that incident could have been if the poor driver had no hard shoulder to go to.

They've recently turned the hard shoulder on the M42 between the M40 and the M6Toll into a running lane (not an HOV lane). I haven't experienced it to see how it works - seems a rather desperate and short-sighted measure to me.

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On at least one of our motorways the hard shoulder on the left side of the motorway is used as a bus lane during the morning peak period and the right lane is used as a multiple occupancy lane.

Seems to work well and does not really affect emergency vehicles as they can use the hard shoulder on the right or negotiate the odd bus on the left.

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They've recently turned the hard shoulder on the M42 between the M40 and the M6Toll into a running lane (not an HOV lane). I haven't experienced it to see how it works - seems a rather desperate and short-sighted measure to me.


I'd call it absolutely stark staring bonkers. I only hope that they discover how stupid it really is before too many lives are lost.

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SafeSpeed wrote:
Derick wrote:
Is this the way forward to ease congestion? Vehicles with two or more passengers are allowed to travel in a special lane. It seems to be a Pernament fixture on the Long Ashton Bypass. Can't think of any other Cities where this Is running?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4302731.stm :) :)


I met one in Bradford last week...


You were lost then.... :wink:

I would guess you were actually on the Stanningley Bypass, on the Bradford side of Leeds. It's the only one I know of though Leeds apparently have plans for another.....

...if they have any money left after building half a tram system.


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Derick wrote:
Is this the way forward to ease congestion? Vehicles with two or more passengers are allowed to travel in a special lane. It seems to be a Pernament fixture on the Long Ashton Bypass. Can't think of any other Cities where this Is running?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4302731.stm :) :)


I met one in Bradford last week...


You were lost then.... :wink:


Yeah - you're right. :) I had a film crew in the car and was driving around talking about Safe Speed stuff. Every so often they said 'go left here' or something like that. I had absolutely NO idea where I was going. :)

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