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Hi and Welcome stevegarrod and What-his-name
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The dft figures from 2006 show clearly that for :
In 20mph zones 17% of injury crashes were fatal or serious
In 30mph zones 13% of injury crashes were fatal or serious

That's a 4% increase. They have yet to explain these figures.

Is it not that 20mph zones are generally in more heavily pedestrianised areas and therefore more of the incidents are pedestrian-vehicle rather than vehicle-vehicle. You need to compare the KSI in these 20mph zones with what it was before the limit was reduced. I predict that it would have been even higher

Is it not that 20mph zones are generally in more heavily pedestrianised areas and therefore more of the incidents are pedestrian-vehicle rather than vehicle-vehicle. You need to compare the KSI in these 20mph zones with what it was before the limit was reduced. I predict that it would have been even higher

Proposals to cut speed limits over thens of thousands of miles are shrouded in the usual propaganda.

"It is about saving lives"

No. It is about making money from Gatso cameras.

There are seven factors that link driving and danger: state of the weather; state of light; state of surrounding traffic - especially pedestrians; condition of the car; skill of the driver; state of the road and speed. But a camera does not know that a camera can only deal in absolutes.

For the camera to drive at 29 mph through driving rain, fading light, surrounded by scurrying pedestrians on a poholed road is safe. To drive at 31 mph at 6 am on a summer morning down the same empty road in perfect light is dangerous,

You and I know the reverse is true but the camera has no brain.

Fewer that 30% of those hurt or killed on the roads are pedestrians and the vast majority of these are jay-walking or hit by a maniac doing 60-70 mph in built up areas.

The fact is that science long solved the technical problem of variable speed cameras.. able to detect rain.. light level and volume of traffic and adjust accordingly. But they cost more and don't earn as much as Gatsos

The fact is that science long solved the technical problem of variable speed cameras.. able to detect rain.. light level and volume of traffic and adjust accordingly. But they cost more and don't earn as much as Gatsos