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 Post subject: Incorrect Number Plates
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 14:52 
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What is the penalty for displaying the incorrect number plates on a car?

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Maximum penalty of £1,000.
It is not endorseable offence and the fine is likely to be lower if it was not cloned or deliberate.
The penalty may have changed, and it is unlikely to be lower !

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jomukuk wrote:
Maximum penalty of £1,000.
It is not endorseable offence and the fine is likely to be lower if it was not cloned or deliberate.
The penalty may have changed, and it is unlikely to be lower !


Where did you get that information?

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http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf
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It is an offence to alter, rearrange or misrepresent letters or numbers in order to form names or words or in such a way that
makes it difficult to read the registration number. Characters must not be moved from one block to the other e.g. AB51 DVL
must not be displayed as AB5 1DVL or AB 51DVL. Vehicles with illegally displayed number plates may FAIL the MoT
test. The police can also issue fixed penalty fines for illegally displayed number plates. Offenders are liable to a MAXIMUM
FINE of £1,000 and in some cases the mark may be withdrawn.
For vehicles with new or replacement number plates fitted after 31.8.2001, “3-line” number plates are no longer permitted.

Typicly it is a £60 fixed penalty no points

More reading for insomniacs ..... http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/20010561.htm

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Anton's right., It used to be £30 with no points,

However, there has been an increase in cloning and plod per TV Traffic Cops confirm this to be the case. ANPR alerts but only if targetted :roll: per the prog :scratchchin:

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I think that there is a major legal distinction between miss-presenting the correct number and correctly presenting a number which was not issued to the vehicle. The former is, as you say, £1000 fine non-endorsable. I suspect that the latter can be punished by a term in gaol and that is what I am asking about.

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Mad Moggie wrote:
Anton's right., It used to be £30 with no points

It is, or at least was, £30 for a plate with the wrong size or font but surely it’s not the same penalty for a vehicle which has completely the wrong registration? :?

I'm thinking someone who changes a '3' to an '8' for the pupose of driving off without paying for fuel has got to be worse than just having a smaller or fancy plate.

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The fp is now £60.00, no points, and the maximum fine at court would be £1000.00.
If convicted of a drive-away-no-pay offence the fine would be up near the maximum, and also theft/fraud etc...as well as the vehicle being impounded and sold. If the offence was a second for a similar offence then the proceeds of crime act would also be used, and assets could be confiscated.
If more than one person was involved then there would be possible conspiracy offences as well.
Not to mention perverting the course of justice.

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Number Plates scam man is jailed......false number plates

A motorist has been jailed for fitting his car with false number plates, then driving through speed cameras, grinning and waving as they flashed at him.

Company director Brian Beaton was clocked doing 45mph in a 30mph zone in his Mercedes, as well as 71mph in a 50mph area, a court heard.

The 58-year-old mocked police as he went through the speed traps because he thought they would be unable to trace him with false number plates. But officers from Kent and Medway Safety Camera Partnership managed to track him down and bring the case to court.

Beaton, of Gillingham, admitted perverting justice and 11 counts of speeding and using false number plates.

He was jailed for four months and given a 12-month driving ban by Maidstone Crown Court.

Court spokeswoman Rachael Wall said: 'Mr Beaton obviously felt he could ignore the legal speed limit - he was wrong using false number plates.


Source: http://www.metro.co.uk/

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Yes. I thought it would be treated very seriously. If you have wrong plates on the car you are able to cock a snoot at GATSOs, ANPR cameras etc etc. And can only be caught if stopped by a police officer.

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dcbwhaley wrote:
And can only be caught if stopped by a police officer.


Spacial data can be used to find false plates. If the same plate crops up within 4 hours
on ANPR in (say) Cumberland and Cornwall, one or both of the plates are false. The easy thing to
do is mark the plate as false, so the suspect gets pulled by a trained cop.
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