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I have just renewed my licence on-line.

At the bottom of the webpages is a note that the information is available in the following languages:

Welsh
Polish
Turkish
Somali
Russian
Portugese
Spanish
French
Greek

Why is money being wasted on this? This is the UK.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

I'm off to register a complaint -there's no version of the licence available in the language of my part of the world - Scottish Gaelic .

Only Joking ,folks ,I don't speak it - but it's a moot point that it should be available to All residents of the UK ,AND as Im Scotts ( NOT SCOTCH - THAT'S ONLY ON Jan 1)-I might expect to find a licence in my native tongue .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

I agree Malcolm and on a similar theme what always racks me off are the manuals you get with any appliance you buy these days.

The book, (and it is more often than not as thick as a book), has a million languages. What I always do is rip-out everything but English and it then becomes a thin pamphlet I can easily store in my ‘User Guides’ section.

What a ridiculous waste of paper, time and energy in manufacturing though. On a global level, it probably equates to a forrest being cut down every day or something, plus all that extra CO2 of course

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I wish. Most of thre manuals I see these days seem to have dispensed with words in favour of incomprehensible pictures. But, at least, the pictures are incomprehensible in every language

An, to be fair, I can see that that it is much easier for the manufacturer to pack the same manual with the product when it is boxed up, rather than having to add the appropriate manual when it is sent to its final destination. And the amount of extra energy is negligible compared with the energy used to ship it from China to Europe.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Ah! So you buy Ikea too? You should see my kitchen


Absolutely dcb! And I mean that!

You see, we could be friends

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Hmm, not really. Most products have to be homologated (I think that is the right word) for each market, so if you're selling a telly here it will be slightly different to the one they sell to the Frogs, that's assuming the French have telly's... So what would be so hard about putting the appropriate handbook specific to the country of destination?



Back on topic, one of my colleagues had a(nother) day off last week for a(nother) trip to court, for non payment of his TV License . He can speak English, but I bet he wishes it was in Czech That £4/week ended up costing him a few quid...

Here is a TV Licensing manul you may find helpful.
http://www.tpuc.org/stoppayingtvlicencefees

Basically if you are PAYING for a TV LICENSE from this PRIVATE COMPANY you are being DECEIVED and if you REFUSE to PAY they will use a STATEMENT (CONTRACT) so you can PUNISH yourself by your own ACTions. Without DECEIVING you into this, there is nothing they can do and this is quite EVIDENT by their own DOCUMENTATION. Pleas click the image above for more information.

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Dave ~ Freeman on the Land
http://www.freemanhighland.co.uk/
A paradigm shift in law and politics

AND IF YOU'RE A FREE MAN - WHAT DO YOU DO ????(wqhen the sumons comes through - )

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

The BBC charter requires that its output be politically unbiased and says nothing about the source of that funding except insomuch as that choice of said output must not be influenced by the funders. Thus the acceptance of EU funding is no more prima facae evidence of treason than is the fact that the corporation also accepts funding from the British government.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Love him or hate him, I don't Nick Griffin was treated fairly on QT. That wasn't an audience, it was a jury...


No-one is forcing you to have a TV. No TV, no need for a licence - it's your choice. You appear to want everything without paying for it - at our expense too.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Student population? You need a tv licence in halls of residence. Overseas students are the reason UK higher education has survived at all. Should have Chinese as the list of languages though.

If the important legal information isn't available in multiple languages how do you expect people that live here that have come from abroad to learn how to behave?? Lots complain that they come over and don't respect how things are done then the same people seem to complain that tax payers money is wasted on publishing in multiple languages.

I gotta agree with you there Tone.

TTT, I don't believe you're able to rationalise your tax/law evading ideology in a manner which anyone could consider as fair. This supported by the fact you cannot bring yourself to answer, or even acknowledge, obvious issues brought directly to your attention, such as :
- Risk
- Essential services
- Anarchy
Given how other regulars here have also taken issue with your ideology, I can't help but suspect you've completely mistaken what we stand for and what the Safe Speed campaign is all about.
(don't feel too bad, you're far from being the only one who has done so).

Do you watch television channels funded by the licence fee TTT? I'm assuming you don't pay that fee.

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How do all these foreign students hope to learn in the hallowed halls of UK academe if they cannot understand English? Are their lectures in their own mother tongues?

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

You are not buying a tv licence from the BBC.
The television licence is needed by law.
The TV licence is needed to operate a television broadcast receiver; To receive ANY television programmes.
At the start of satellite television large numbers of people believed the propaganda from various parties that because it was from a "satellite" they didn't need a licence. They did. They still do.
Most of the European countries have some sort of tv/radio/combined licencing, those that have low licence fees tend to have taxation funding the rest.

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

The television licence is NOT needed by Law.
If it is lawful to do something with a "Liecence" it is lawful to do it without a "licence".

WRONG "The TV licence is needed to operate a television broadcast receiver; To receive ANY television programmes."
A TV set will recieve any signal it can, quite happily without a "Licence".

No human being needs any "Licences". Period.
Just because a vast group of men in fancy wigs and costumes have ganged together
and demanded You pay for "Licences" does not make paying them a condition
of human existence.

Most of you I expect pay Tax
See http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nav/index.htm

Also, just because a vast group of men in fancy wigs and costumes have ganged together
and demanded You pay for "Taxes" does not make paying them a condition
of human existence.

The original poster of this thread said:
"I have just renewed my licence on-line."

Well done BUT you created the contract with the TV Licensing gang.
That is Freedom, to contract or not to contract.

Your society and all societies have rules which members of that society must adhere to.
I am not a member of any society. I have left your free society
I was never asked to join and have given up my National Insurance number and passport,
which are contracts between UK Plc and you.

Big Tone has said: "No-one is forcing you to have a TV. No TV, no need for a licence - it's your choice. You appear to want everything without paying for it - at our expense too."

It is my choice but I am a capitalist. I buy things I need but I am not part of the collective,
as you are.
I expect you will be happy paying the increased taxes the European Union will bestow upon you. You may grumble but you remain a member of that society.

Merry Crimbo to all and watch for ice on the roads.

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Dave ~ Freeman on the Land
http://www.freemanhighland.co.uk/
A paradigm shift in law and politics

If you don't want to pay the subscription, don't join the club.

Most often overseas students turn up early or do foundation years in English before they start their studies so that their language skills are up to scratch. They do need some initial information in their own language. Countries abroad often have lots of things in English.....

From memory ,the wording of the old law was a bit iffy on recieving via satelite -seem to remember someone getting done for not having a TV licence ,having spent some cash on getting satelite in and disconnecting his aerial .Case went to trial ,and he got off .Shortly after that the law was changed .Remember going for an interview with a cable TV company to find that to get round any problems with licencing ,they included terestial broadcasts in their basic package ,which meant that customers needed a licence .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on