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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 17:16 
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Snap-happy speed camera nabs parked car – twice!
Thursday, January 21, 2010, 07:00
POLICE have apologised to a man after he was given two speeding fines from a camera outside his house – despite the fact his car was parked at the time.
Jeff Buck has always parked outside his home in Watnall Road, Nuthall, with no problems.
But in recent weeks he has been surprised to find two speeding fines land on his doormat.
It is believed that when speeding vehicles drive past his parked car the camera is triggered, but instead of snapping the real offenders it is taking a picture of Mr Buck's number plate.
Mr Buck, 55, successfully contested the fines and has since received written apologies from Notts Police.

Mr Buck said: "I assumed the first time it happened that the police would put something in place to prevent it from happening again.
"I'm concerned now that every time someone triggers the camera I'll get these notices. I am amused by it, but also angry that I have to go to the trouble of contacting the police."

Mr Buck received his latest apology from Notts Police on Monday.
He had queried the accuracy of a speeding offence he had supposedly committed on Watnall Road on December 13. Notts Police said they had caught Mr Buck's Vauxhall Zafira travelled at 37mph along Watnall Road, which has a 30mph speed limit.

After Mr Buck requested to see photographic evidence, police dropped the case.
"The photograph must presumably show two vehicles, with mine parked halfway on the pavement and road," Mr Buck said.
"My only option is to park the car on the road as I don't have a garage or driveway."
He added: "It's amazing that whatever system is in place cannot tell the difference between a car that is motionless and one travelling at 37mph."
The speed camera was put up across the road from Mr Buck's home around a year ago.
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Precisely - cameras are NOT reliable - funny how we have been saying this for simply ages!
I have seen 37 mph from a static parked car too. Sadly not surprised but pleased to see the report in the papers. They do not check anything much when tickets are issued and unreliable staff continue to show the total injustice of an automatic unforgiving bureaucratic system.
It is hard for the public to come to terms with the fact that the authorities that be can allow such a flawed system loose on them.
Faults like this happen all the time, and it is only when they are questioned do the Courts then have to decide who is telling the truth!
This and other side deflection faults have been happening since these cameras have been used.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 14:28 
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I highlighted this problem in 2006 in this thread

Basicly there is no process to check the photo. they read the number plate and issue a nip. There are no manuals for the camera partnership office staff top follow. only one of the camera partnerships were able to reply to my foi request with a process document and that was created after I submitted my request.

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I think he'll be shortly getting a parking ticket for parking on the pavement.

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I think he'll be shortly getting a parking ticket for parking on the pavement.


Followed ,rapidly by yellow lines in that area .Surprised that the LA haven't woken to this untapped source of income . :o

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I think he'll be shortly getting a parking ticket for parking on the pavement.


Followed ,rapidly by yellow lines in that area .Surprised that the LA haven't woken to this untapped source of income . :o


Bloody good thing if they would crack down on parking on the pavement. It really inconveniences cyclists.

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I don't believe the camera itself (seems like a Truvelo) is the issue here.
However, the corroboration process is definitely faulty. This goes to show that anyone unsure of a NIP should always demand the full evidence. The SCPs should automatically provide it anyway, without waiting for someone to opt for the daunting court (and higher penalty) process.

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I'm surprised they dropped the case, after all were we not promised that the 'dream team' would ensure motorists did not get off on technicalities. The technicality in this case being that the car was not in fact moving.

I always wonder how many people have paid fines who were in fact not speeding - many thousands I suspect! Still at least the revenue flows, that's what matters, and Mr % Mrs Nimby are happy, because they can sleep easy because they know that speeding causes all the worlds problems!


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Before we offer too much sympathy, he was interviewed on 5Live Drive last night and he said he was pro speed camera. A classic case of being care what you wish for.


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Before we offer too much sympathy, he was interviewed on 5Live Drive last night and he said he was pro speed camera. A classic case of being care what you wish for.


Does this prove that there is a limit to how slow you can go before becoming dangerous - after all if he had not been a dangerous driver ( according to SCP logic) he wouldn't have gotten two speeding tickets :o :o :o :o :o

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