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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:16 
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Major roads 'not meeting top safety rating'

Only half of the motorways in England reach the top safety rating, with other major roads much worse, a report says.

The study, which analysed motorways and major A roads, says many do not protect drivers who run off the road.

The Road Safety Foundation says crashes cost £18bn a year and many roads could be improved relatively easily.

But the Highways Agency says England's roads are among the world's safest, saying it funds the study to help identify where to focus improvements.

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The Road Safety Foundation - the UK arm of the European Road Assessment Programme (EuroRAP), the sister organisation of EuroNCAP which measures car safety - inspected virtually all of the 7,000km (4349.5 miles) of motorways and major A roads in England.

It then gave each a star rating from one to four - in much the same way as the car safety rating system works.

Only half of motorways were given four stars. Although they fared well on junction safety and head-on collisions, many did not protect users who ran off the road.

Unprotected signs and trees can turn a relatively minor problem with a tyre for example, into a fatal crash. There are 10 deaths a year on Britain's motorways caused by motorists hitting trees.

When the Foundation's German equivalent did its work, 70% of motorways there reached the four star standard - though not all the network was surveyed.

Three quarters of dual carriageways were given three stars. Most did well on head-on protection, but poorly for run-off protection. A quarter had junctions, lay-bys and minor accesses which were not considered suitable for a major road.

Single carriageway major A roads fared the worst of all, with most only getting two stars. They lacked many of the safety features to protect drivers, including on-coming traffic often only being separated by a white line even when speeds were high.

"If a driver is belted, sober and obeying the speed limit, then the risk of death and injury in a four-star car on a four-star road is small," said John Dawson, chairman of EuroRAP.

"But most rural roads in Europe are not safe at the posted speed limit.

"Most deaths happen on busy one or two-star main single carriageway roads that need urgent investment in affordable safety line markings, safety fencing and junction layouts."

The report argues that road crashes cost the British economy £18bn a year, with emergency services, long term care and lost work-hours all contributing to the cost.

The foundation says a study should be carried out into the benefits of upgrading major roads.

It points out that the Dutch government committed itself to raising its network to a three-star minimum by 2020 after a similar study.

A Highways Agency spokesperson said EuroRap had recognised England's roads were safe by awarding three or four stars for all its motorways and 98% of dual-carriageways.

"Single-carriageway roads - which represent one fifth of the Highways Agency network - are by their very nature less likely to score as highly as motorways and dual-carriageways," the spokesperson said.

"But we fund this work by EuroRAP to help us identify where to focus improvements and are committed to working with road safety organisations to continue to make all our roads safer."

Professor Stephen Glaister, director of the RAC Foundation, said in many cases it is not going too fast that kills but what you hit when you leave the road in an accident.

He said: "Simple engineering solutions offer extraordinary rates of return for every pound spent.

"The cost of accidents to the economy is enormous yet by spending its dwindling resources wisely the DfT [Department for Transport] could have a big impact on road casualty rates and get great value for money."

Protect and Survive: Star rating England's trunk road network for safety [3.08 MB]


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 14:21 
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A prime example is the A338 duel carriageway from Ringwood to Bournemouth. The road has poor drainage and pine woodlands each side. the number of cars that crash into the trees is amazing. The road is reletivly streight and the section contains no side roads and a few lay-bye's. It can easily be driven at NSL+20. however in the wet it can be a different story. The road could benefit from rumble road markings, better drainage and crash barriers seperating the trees from the motorists (thee is plenty of room for a drainage/soakaway ditch and barriers. They might after 12 years after I complained and was told they knew about the drainage issues be doing that now. However this road is repaired under PFI therefore the funding sahould be available due to its heavy usage.

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When my kids were little, we did our best to make sure that they could not hurt themselves, with a degree of success.
However, we were merely storing up trouble for later, when they went out into the wide world, and encountered new hazards for the very first time.

If you wanted to stop drownings, should you teach everyone to swim, or ban them from coming into contact with water EVER?

No, there has to be a balance between risk, and measures to lessen the risk, and I think most of the motorways I have travelled strike a reasonable balance.

Anton has identified a specific risk which needs addressing, which requires funding. What is the bet that the only answer would be to lower the limit and put cameras on it?

Here in Cumbria the county struggle to keep the roads they have maintained, without adding to their costs the burden of "sterilising" the road verges!
The million pounds spent on patching potholes at the urgence of County Cllr Ian Stewart over the last two years has come to nothing this year, with the patches breaking up in floods and frosts, exposing road users (especially motorcyclists) to even greater risk! The money should have been spent on proper repairs, not stop gap measures!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 17:23 
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Yep the totally appaling roads round here that haven't been repaird or patched up since last year are now like battelfields.

http://www.shropshirestar.com/2010/01/1 ... sts-tyres/

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 22:30 
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Single carriageway major A roads fared the worst of all, with most only getting two stars. They lacked many of the safety features to protect drivers, including on-coming traffic often only being separated by a white line even when speeds were high.

Eek, either put in a central barrier immediately or reduce the speed limit to no more than 40 :x

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 23:11 
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"Simple engineering solutions offer extraordinary rates of return for every pound spent.

"The cost of accidents to the economy is enormous yet by spending its dwindling resources wisely the DfT [Department for Transport] could have a big impact on road casualty rates and get great value for money


Seems to me they're saying that there's a motorway to road safety ,bypassing the single track road ( with passing places) of speed enforcement, by ENGINEERING A SOLUTION . :D :D :shock: :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 23:48 
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BBC wrote:
Major roads 'not meeting top safety rating'

...Unprotected signs and trees can turn a relatively minor problem with a tyre for example, into a fatal crash. There are 10 deaths a year on Britain's motorways caused by motorists hitting trees....

...or pointless signs telling you how many accidents there have been on such-and-such a road in the last X years! :roll:

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He said: "Simple engineering solutions offer extraordinary rates of return for every pound spent.

...but better still, scameras offer a VAST rate of return for every pound spent AND don't fix the problem! - The gift that just keeps on giving! :wink:


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