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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 14:10 
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KENT NEWS: A crackdown on speeding and irresponsible driving is to be launched in Tunbridge Wells in the spring.
As well as tackling those who go too fast it will also target drivers who don’t wear seatbelts, those who use their mobile phones while at the wheel and others who are over the drink drive limit.
Police will be out in force across the district and will pay particular attention to routes where residents have expressed concerns.
They will work in conjunction with the Kent and Medway Safety Camera Partnership to catch speeding drivers, and officers and police community support officers will be out with hand-held speed detection devices across the borough.
Insp Simon Wilshaw said: “Residents of Tunbridge Wells regularly raise speeding as a concern which is why we are tackling it.
“It is a concern they raise with us at Police and Communities Together (PACT) meetings, with the local council and when speaking to officers out on patrol.
“Across the county it is a force priority to reduce the number of people who are killed or seriously injured in road accidents and there will be regular operations across the county to address this with the aim of driving down the figures.
“There are four main causes of collisions: driving under the influence of drink or drugs, excessive speed, the use of mobile phones and the failure to wear seatbelts.”

Police in Tunbridge Wells recently took action in Southborough following concerns in the area about speeding which were raised by residents and the parish council, following an accident near the primary school at the Yew Tree Road and Powder Mill Lane junction.
They monitored traffic in the area and are now working with Southborough Town Council and Kent Highway Services to see if traffic calming measures could be installed. They have also spoken to pupils at the primary school and parents about road safety.

Insp Wilshaw said: “We wanted to make the children aware of road safety and to ask parents not to ignore the road markings near the school.
“The neighbourhood task team has visited and enforced parking restrictions and messages have gone out in school newsletters asking parents to park in a more considerate way.
“We took a good look at the area and found road markings were not clear. We told Kent Highways and they have repainted the white lines.
“There was also an overgrown hedge next to the school which did not encourage people to use the path and we organised for this to be cut back. It has also improved visibility for drivers.”

Police are also tackling speeding through Community Speedwatch, a scheme to help people reduce speeding traffic in their local area.
It enables trained volunteers to work within their community to raise awareness of the dangers of speeding and to help control the problem locally. Many community Speedwatch schemes across the county are run in conjunction with parish councils.

Volunteers are trained to use hand-held speed devices which can record a vehicle’s speed. If a driver is caught speeding the registration number is taken down and given to the police. The driver will then receive a warning letter from the police.
If problems persist in a certain location then police officers will go there and carry out enforcement.

Insp Wilshaw said: “When motorists see speed checks taking place it reminds them to show down and to watch their speed.
“One of the worst parts of a police officer’s job is knocking on someone’s door and telling them a loved one has died as a result of a road traffic collision.”

Aside from the human cost of road accidents there is also a financial consideration.
Insp Wilshaw estimates that the average road traffic collision costs in excess of £1 million, with this total including damage to the vehicle, the cost of the emergency services attending the scene, resulting road closures and the knock on effect these can have on local businesses and the local economy.
During the spring police in Tunbridge Wells will be tackling all forms of anti-social driving. This will also include those who cause a nuisance with mini-motorbikes.
POSTED: 01/03/2010 08:00:00
If the Police are on acting when residents state a problem it tells the public that the police are not being proactive and leaving fire fighting police work to the public and even Com Watch literally leaves it down to the public.
I agree to having the Police on the roads observing and acting appropriately but when there is little action for most of the year, it begins to appear as a police to public target practice to potentially reach target goals for yr end budgets - I wonder ? I hope not.

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How exactly does failure to wear a belt cause a collision?? This generally affects the severity of the outcome unless there is an unmentioned inference that non wearing of belts is a proxy for other bad driving behaviours/indicators eg increased likelihood of being unlicensed, uninsured or other criminal doings which would give a greater accident risk.


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I would sooner that they concentrate on people who don't indicate/indicate correctly and show poor road positioning, especially on roundabouts and drive in poor visibility with inadequate lights, these are much more dangerous than the person who has forgotten/can't be bothered to wear a seat belt.

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"...Insp Wilshaw estimates that the average road traffic collision costs in excess of £1 million, with this total including damage to the vehicle, the cost of the emergency services attending the scene, resulting road closures and the knock on effect these can have on local businesses and the local economy...."

What a load of utter ^&*%$^!

Really??? Maybe the average FATAL or SERIOUS INJURY collision does, but the "average collision"? Yeah, right.

Still, I'm sure we can look forward to a drop in KSIs in the area directly proportional to the percentage increase in fines collected! (NOT)!


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Insp Simon Wilshaw said/ wrote:
Residents of Tunbridge Wells regularly raise speeding as a concern which is why we are tackling it.
This statement sounds suspicious on its face. Shouldn't these complaints be backed up with hard data of some sort? Or is loud whingeing alone enough?
Insp Simon Wilshaw also said/ wrote:
There are four main causes of collisions: driving under the influence of drink or drugs, excessive speed, the use of mobile phones and the failure to wear seatbelts.”
This statement is not based on any logic, science, or reason ... at the very least blatantly inaccurate and misleading, at worst a baldfaced lie.

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This statement sounds suspicious on its face. Shouldn't these complaints be backed up with hard data of some sort? Or is loud whingeing alone enough?


In England, speed limits on busy NSL roads can be dropped at the whinging of one local.

"Insp Simon Wilshaw also said/ wrote:There are four main causes of collisions: driving under the influence of drink or drugs, excessive speed, the use of mobile phones and the failure to wear seatbelts.”

So if you wear a seatbelt, don't drink or take drugs, drive very slowly and don't have a mobile phone, you are very unlikely to have a collision....right, so no old granny should ever have a bump then......

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Yes, loud whingeing is enough - but only about speeding.

If you moan about potholes, poor signage, dangerous sight lines etc. then nothing will be done. If you say speed is too high then nothing is too much trouble. Spy drones to track speeders? No problem, sir.

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