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I fear there is a storm brewing; something close to home for me…

Dudley, in the Black Country, has been the site for a proposed new build of a Mosque and it has ruffled a few feathers.

For those who don’t know, the EDL, (English Defence League), are opposed to this and there have been confrontations before at Leister, Stoke and others and now I fear it’s coming to Dudley - this weekend!

The police are closing many roads in the area and fingers crossed it will go peacefully…

http://www.dudley.gov.uk/welcome/news-i ... t-and-faqs

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top- ... -21365612/

The sad thing is if you object you’re classed as a racist when you may just want to preserve what used to be a bit of old England.

Enoch may still yet be proved to be right about the violence on our streets sadly.

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I can't help but be concerned that, having apparently been turned down on "sound planning grounds", the appeal was approved with an air of fear at the prospect of 'offending' a religious group, particularly this religious group.



It does seem that when you deny certain groups their own way it suddenly becomes "prejudice and bigotry". "Is it because I is Mulsim?"

On a side note, I thought Islam opposed democracy?

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Good points Robin; couldn't agree with you more.

Well, I am reluctant almost to say anything for fear of offending someone and this is precisely what bothers me sometimes.

Dudley is a very old town with a market which goes back generations. Why-o-why build something in a sensitive area with a heritage and history when you could build it somewhere which is less likely to inflame people?

As an example.. Reddich is an overspill of Birmingham, (I hate referring to it like that but it's true), and there has indeed been a new Mosque built there, but not near the town centre. Even though I have heard people complaining, I am okay with it because it’s not intruding into my culture or my heritage.

The one proposed in Dudley is being built somewhere almost as if to deliberately antagonise with it towering above all else; well, if it does go ahead that is.

So I just think sensitivity should work both ways, but I don’t think it is and I guess that would label me a racist when I don't think I'm anything of the sort. Since I know the area and level of feeling there I’m just hoping nothing ‘kicks off’.

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Be quite clear about this!

These Mosques are NOT about simply pursuing peacefull relegeos beliefs.

They are Forts overlooking conquored teritory! They are meant to make the same impression on us as Edward I castles were meant to make on the Welsh!

No clearer example of this can be made than the recent construction of a "Super Mosque" at Tours in France!

If I lived in Dudley I might well have gone along on the demo too!

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Perhaps the Swiss have got the right answer - mosques might be allowed ,minarets are banned .

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I would say the same about churches. After all, Christianity is only a recent invader really.

In fact I see very little difference, a church has one big pointy tower, usually sat on a hill, a mosque has 4 smaller ones.

We have plenty of mosques around here, and Bradford is also a..

..some of them are quite nice to look at, the newer ones (i.e. the purpose built ones) are generally very tidy and I would say have improved certain areas.

Are you all blind??

This situation is getting worse and worse? Why....

because Dudley Council asked the local residents if they object to the new Mosque AND..... The ''Islamic Village'' that will be built next to the Mosque which will have a wall built around it SEGREGATING them off from the surrounds, why. very dodgy.. and why build it directly in the middle of Dudley and by Dudleys famous statues and etc.

Dudley Council must of hoped the residents would saye yes but they didn't they said no so Dudley Council have broken their promise and ignored residents and have carried on with this awful project!!... it's causing way too uch problems and for everyones safety it's best this Mosque and islamic village does not get built it's causing bifg racial tensions, and it's all because of certain people in Dudley Council who must obviously not care or think it's funny to watch all this racial tension rising, and I think i think the Mosque should not get built in Dudley! It's not as if there's many muslims in Dudley anyway, far from it.

Too much tension all because certain people in Dudley Council ignored the local residents of Dudley so it's best the mosque does not get built!!

I too place the blame completely with the council. But when I have ever had dealings with Councils' I have always found them to be a complete and utter bunch of unaccountable and unhelpful t s



(Oh, we're far from blind though It's Political Correctness gone mad and some people use it to their advantage )

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

OH-the PC thing does work out nicely though -Tone - couple of years ago I had little lord of the manor type strutting round ( fact that my lad and his mate had no problems seeing him and his mate off in self defence made no difference) , and my house was a thorn in his side - he's threatened my wife -who routed him /his brother and mother -all supposedly hard nuts and he ran when I stood up to him .Still he strutted around -till one night -I had left the CCTV running - to pick him up coming from a house few doors up ,and on tape he was heard to shout "Scottish c**t" etc .I passed copy to both council and ward councillor - apparently race relations was used - ( my ward councillor is Irish and loved doing it )-and yob was told to shut up ,or get out of council accommodation .Now had I resorted to his level with bit of 2x2 - I'd be in trouble - case of brain beating drug fuelled muscle .

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Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Personally, I think it a shame that what was essentially a planning issue has been seized on by racists - and that's what the EDL are - they are a mix of the most extreme members of the BNP, other racist groups and football hooligans.

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It was always going to end as racist.
Even IF there had been genuine planning reasons for to block the construction.
The race card is always played, along with the sexuality card and the load of other "cards" which people use to justify their beliefs/orientation/etc over others.
Just as long as the loudspeakers on the top calling the "faithful" to prayer are banned you will be ok.

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

To be fair, they're not the ones who initially made it about race.

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I agree, but it doesn't stop them be the odious bunch they are

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likewise gold and jewels,
but I would slave to learn the way
to sink your ship of fools

Just thought I'd follow up on this.

AFAIK it went ahead without bloodshed I'm glad to say, although that's not what I personally took from "Britain's newspaper of the year" today.

http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midla ... -26264953/ & http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midla ... 6264953/2/

"Cops fought running battles as thugs ran through the city centre, brandishing sticks and hurling bricks at massed ranks of riot police."

From other recent events, it makes me wonder just who started what Call me cynical..

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

YEP -strange ,Tone - native Brits protest - "police fight running battles " - big protest in London some time ago - some Asians shouting nasties against UK troops - no action at that time - they took pics and acted later -"to prevent trouble " -- one law for one lot ?????

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

That's the long and short of it Botach.

I’d like to know how fast my ass would be frog-marched off the scene if I tried the same as Abu Hansa for instance..

A man who has ripped this Country off in benefits, preached nothing but condemnation for the west, inciting murder and stirring up race hatred etc. etc. All with impunity until eventually, EVENTUALLY, someone thought he should be reprimanded.

It's things like this which promotes parties like the EDL who regard this 'foreign invasion' as simply taking the p1ss these days. How else are they effectively meant to get their point across when it falls on deaf ears all the time and is so obviously skewed?

I don't agree with any violence but intellectually I can understand where they are coming from TBH.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

BNP/EDL / UKIP -Their best friends are the current Labia party and their policies .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

To include UKIP in this list is pretty ignorant if I may be honest mate.

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Sorry -rephrase that - more meant as BNP/EDL gaining due to PC view of present Govt ( waiting for Pole dancers to get more PC name ) : UKIP, due to ass licking ,roll over attitude of this Govt to Brussels .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on