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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 23:04 
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I imagine a lot of the accidents are around the somewhat abrupt sliproads.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 23:39 
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Johnnytheboy wrote:
I imagine a lot of the accidents are around the somewhat abrupt sliproads.


dont forget the blowing sand as well, as all the vehicles were stationary when accidents occurred

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:24 
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Johnnytheboy wrote:
I imagine a lot of the accidents are around the somewhat abrupt sliproads.


dont forget the blowing sand as well, as all the vehicles were stationary when accidents occurred


:?: :?:

Looking at the map, the seems to be three main clusters of accidents.

At the east most roundabout (not grade separated) there would apper to be issues with traffic queuing to join the roundabout and collisions with joining traffic from the south.

At the centre roundabout (grade separated) there appear to be issues with both slip rouads (Poor slip road behaviour is one of my big gripes, but I will rant about that another time)

between this and the next roundabout, accidents seem to be more spaced out. I would guess that the combination of the "Centre-left" roundabout being non-grade separated combined with being a 2 into 1 junction would result in long queues at peak times with plenty of oppertunity for low-speed shunts.

The most curios section is the cluster of accidents of increacing frequency (and possible severity) at the western end of the section of road which seem to stop abruptly on the apex of the corner approaching the west-most roundabout. Interestingly there are no indications of accidents on that roundabout or its immediate approach!.


I want to know what is on that corner??

(a badly positioned pelican crossing perhaps?? or a speed camera?? :wink: )

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:52 
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I have just tracked it down on Google earth.

It would appear that the corner in question is subject to some rather nasty highway engineering!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 19:11 
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I wrote:
Director of Planning and Transport services
Bournmouth Borough Council

Dear Sir

I wish to formally object to the reduction to 40 mph in the speed limit along the Wessex Way on the section adjoining Bournemouth Town Centre.

This road was designed – presumably – by qualified traffic engineers, to carry traffic at the national dual carriageway speed limit of 70mph. I have tolerated a 50 limit, though in certain sections it felt a bit slow, but 40mph is utterly inappropriate for this class of road.

Inasmuch as accidents may be caused by excessive speed (and as I’m sure you are aware, by far the majority are not), a reduction from a speed limit lower than the road’s design speed to one even lower is unlikely to make a jot of difference to the number of serious accidents along here. Though by association it will do a great deal to bring more appropriate speed limits elsewhere in the town into disrepute.

Bournemouth Council would be much wiser to spend their finite resources to ‘engineer out’ the accident causations on this road; this layman would suggest starting by looking at the overly abrupt slip roads.

I have come to expect dogma-driven speed limit reductions in Hampshire, but until recently Dorset has been reasonably pragmatic. It makes me sad that a county who once had the illustrious road safety expert Prof JJ Leeming as County Engineer could start to fall down the same route of thinking all road safety issues can be corrected by lower the speed limit.

As this reduction is on a trial basis only, enabling the Council to bypass such niceties as public consultation, I respectfully request that if anything more than a half-hearted attempt to weigh up the success of – and in particular the public’s reaction to – the trial is held, that my objection be taken into account.

Yours faithfully

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I thought as many other normal drivers thought that here in Nottingham the A610 dual carriageway was the most stupid speed limit in the world and whoever designated it cannot possibly be a driver/ drivers and if they are drivers they must think that all of us drivers have reactions similar to that of the crawling pace of a slug ! If drivers are observant this problem of designating speed limits around the Country seems very haphazard and there seems to be no basis for common sense attatched to the designation of posted speeds.
Look at the most dangerous road (I'm told) in the Country the Snake Pass. I feel some of the posted limits especially on some of the dangerous bend are totaly misleading especially for the new drivers and those who posted those limits should be answerable to their stupidity. In all my years driving I've never seen such an abismal state of affairs re driving as is now--it is time for sensible drivers to take charge of the situation and OUT those who are against :clap: reason. :clap:


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Got a standard response back from my letter, saying due to the huge volume of letters on this subject they weren't replying individually.

So, plenty of people's opinions to ride roughshod over then.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:40 
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The usual response to speed-limit objections is:

"We have received a large amount of letters from members of the public about the speed limit in ************. The vast majority were in favour of lowering the speed to a sustainable 20mph along the motorway, which would also be effective on lowering the boroughs carbon footprint and reducing pollution from vehicles and reducing injuries to pedestrians"

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I noticed this stupid restriction a little while ago. It is complete nonsense, get rid of the speed restrictions on that road, they aren't needed.
The roundabouts have had foliage and the such plonked on them to make it more difficult to see and anticipate what is happening.
But those slip roads, especially the one to the north, I am not surprised at the large cluster of accidents there. Those have to be some of the most dangerous slip roads anywhere. When you're going to merge with the main road you simply can't see what is coming until the point at which you have to be travelling at the same speed as it.
There are at least two speed cameras in this new restriction, aren't there? I didn't look to see how far it extended. If it goes all the way back to County Gates then there's another along there. Although I think that single carriageway is still subject to the 50mph speed restriction.

The roundabouts are both at very odd angles aren't they? I mean, at least one of them is, its like it has been built on a hill. Very strange.

Looking at the stats map, to the west the speed camera is a bit further to the west of the fatal, on the straight isn't it? The rest of the accidents are due to the queue at peak times. Traffic lights on the roundabout will be helping solve that problem, of course... :roll:

Are these are the accidents used to justify the speed camera on the westbound carriageway between St Paul's Road and the A347? If so it isn't near any of them, except that one "slight". But it is on the straightest part of the road again... If those are the stats for the camera they must have used westbound accidents to justify an eastbound speed camera?!

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