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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 18:26 
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Councillor condemns threat to speed camera body

SOUTH Devon's Greens have condemned moves to axe the body behind the county's speed cameras as an 'utter disgrace'.
Totnes Green county councillor Paula Black has accused the Government of putting cost-cutting ahead of lives. And she revealed that the Green Party would be lobbying MPs in an effort to stop the loss of the Devon and Cornwall Safety Camera Partnership and the 35 jobs that go with it.
She said: "We know that speeding vehicles cause accidents and deaths on our roads.
"The fact that road casualties have fallen 40 per cent over the past five years in our area is an indication of just how important these devices are.
"Why then are we allowing a culture to develop where cost cutting is seen as more important than saving lives?
"This is an utter disgrace, and perhaps the first indication of how the new coalition government values the well-being of its citizens."

Motorists in Devon and Cornwall were hit with speeding fines totalling £1.41million last year, but the body which operates speed cameras in the two counties looks set to be shut down, which could mean both fixed and mobile cameras being used less.
The news came as it emerged Government funding for speed safety partnerships has dried up, meaning the Devon and Cornwall partnership looks set to close by March next year.

Ms Black said: "Speeding vehicles not only harm pedestrians, drivers and passengers, they also threaten economic sustainability in rural areas, as speeding vehicles divide communities and increase the use of journeys.
"As taxpaying citizens, we expect our government to act with care to us and to protect us from law breakers whose inconsideration threatens us physically. To see an increase in road traffic accidents and the misery that any premature death and physical injury creates is just not acceptable."
She said the South Devon Green Party will be writing to MPs in the area to demand action to save this unit from closure, and safeguard the jobs under threat.
I think I will ask her how she knows that :
Ms Black wrote:
"We know that speeding vehicles cause accidents and deaths on our roads.
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Ms Black wrote:
"Speeding vehicles not only harm pedestrians, drivers and passengers, they also threaten economic sustainability in rural areas, as speeding vehicles divide communities and increase the use of journeys.
Eh? Now I wonder what statistics she has to back that up with !? Bizarre! Think I will ask her this as well !
I wonder if there will be a 'drive' to catch as many motorists as they can before they have to close ?

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Paula Black
Address: Silverwood, Fairseat Close, Steamer Quay Road, Totnes TQ9 5AN
Tel: 01803 868261 Fax: 01803 864220
Email: paula.black@devon.gov.uk
website : http://www.devon.gov.uk/councillor_profile_district.htm/councillor_profile-41

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:06 
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She's a Green Party councillor :loco: - I wouldn't waste your breath.

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Well I have asked and will pot back her response when I get it... I have told her of this thread too. Maybe we (I) might make her reconsider just what she says, and that she needs to be a lot more accurate & careful. And if she does have some figures to back up her claims then it will be good to analyse them. :)

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Maybe we (I) might make her reconsider just what she says, and that she needs to be a lot more accurate & careful.


I sorely doubt it, she states that KSI's have reduced by 40% when even a cursory examination of the figures shows that they simply haven't! The KSI's have remained almost completely static as seen everywhere else in the country. Therefore I suspect that the mere inconvenience of facts will not budge her from her beliefs.


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Therefore I suspect that the mere inconvenience of facts will not budge her from her beliefs.


Shame really because I see that she is on the highways committee and they do seem to have a large number of speed reductions going through...ALL in the name of road safety no doubt! You have to feel sorry for residents in these areas, where people like her, with an absolute misunderstanding of reality, make road safety decisions.

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I am sure if they understood and appreciated the 85th%ile facts they would not be so ready to accept the 'average mean' that is driving the speeds down, under the guise of the misconceived concept, that 'slower is (somehow) safer', which in turn fails to appreciate or understand, 'free travelling speed' against 'impact speed', and then accident reduction.

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