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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 15:09 
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I’ve got nosy neighbours and need to plug an 18 foot long gap where the new fence they put up is a convenient, for them, below head height five foot tall. I nearly had cross words with them in fact, the gawping was so blatant; still might but one ever wants to rock the boat of harmony. I think there should be a law on gawping now though! :x

So anyway, I phoned these guys up and they have a special offer on Cotoneaster which are normally £12.91 each. I will need 18 in total @ 3 plants per metre. The quote I’ve had which includes VAT and delivery is £206. That’s a lot of money to me, but I think it’s very good value and will be hard to beat and I think I can justify it if I can get a lodger in soon. I also like the idea of feeding the birdies, except pigeons, which these also do. :)

They don’t have them in the height I want, they only have them at 1.2 Metres, but they grow at about 60cm a year, so they should have some stretching left to do this summer and I’ll be well sheltered for next year from the sounds of it. I’ll shovel a tone of blood and bonemeal on them to help too.

I was sort of wondering if there’s someone here who knows where I may get better value or knows anyone who may be able to help. Perhaps there’s a farmer who wants to get rid of a hedge or something. No harm in asking I thought and any advice what to avoid or do and bad experiences is welcome. I also recall, but I can't remember who, a member whose job is in plants or landscaping??

Someone mentioned Leylandii but I’ve read some things about them which has put me off. I don’t want something that’s going to overtake the planet in a week and suck the water table dry.

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That's fairly reasonable for 1.2m plants... most hedging is supplied very small, I posted a picture of my beech hedge when planted before as little twigs. So this will give you the quick impact you want.

Might be worth looking at local nurseries who may be able to beat it, as I imagine delivery forms a large part of that price.

Cotoneaster, Berberis, Pyrocantha, Griselinia, Photinia, all good quick dense growers but not thuggish conifers.

Dig some tree and shrub compost in when you plant them and try and keep them wet as much as poss for the rest of summer.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 16:05 
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Johnnytheboy wrote:
That's fairly reasonable for 1.2m plants
Yes, I thought so too. I forgot you had gone down this route, or should I say root :D

I’ve seen recommendations of using five per metre but I just want good visual cover; the woman I spoke with on that site recommended three per metre. I didn’t want anything pointy in case the kids get pricked or scratched. Plus I don't like cutting the stuff and handling it. I’ve never built a hedge before and don’t want to spend time, effort and money on getting it wrong.

The family are actually very nice and have been kind and helpful. It’s just that his wife doesn’t seem to know how inappropriate it is to ogle at what we, me and my friends, were doing in the 'none' privacy of my rear garden. It’s not like we were out there smoking weed in the nude; we do that indoors. :P

Also, their son and daughter has taken a shine to me so I die the death of a thousand questions every time I go into the garden. He’s nice but he is a handful. A handful that should be their handful, not mine.

I’ve tried calling a local landscape gardener who hasn’t been able to answer his phone yet but I can’t see how he will undercut that price if he does it all himself. I can do the labour so I’m best off buying them and doing it myself.

Now that I don’t have a car I will need them delivered but maybe, like you say, a local place will be cheaper if the delivery is high. My local small place delivers for £3, which is good but they don’t have what I’m looking for.

Thanks for the advice, I’ve got some other larger nurseries nearby which I’ll try and I’ll search on the other types you mentioned. :thumbsup:

Edit: My choice was limited because of the time of year. The woman said if I can wait until September they'll have more choice, but the summer will be all but over by then...

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Nurseries that sell to the public will be cheaper than garden centres.


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I don't know if it's the same with hedging plants but with trees, if you buy them quite big (say 4' tall), you'll often find that a 3' or even 2' tall one will overtake it in a few years. The bigger they are, the more damage to the root system you do when digging them up and re-planting them. they then seem to just stand still for a few years while they repair their root systems. I've had a few trees where that has happened, but don't know if bushy hedge-like things are the same.

Also, if you DO eventually fall out with them, you'll need to think about what you do with the far side of your 8' hedge in 5 years time. Good old privet grows like crazy, isn't pointy, and (in my experience!) is virtually impossible to kill once it's established!

Anyway, maybe if you DID smoke weed in the nude in your back garden it would stop the problem in it's tracks??? :lol:


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Mole wrote:
I don't know if it's the same with hedging plants but with trees, if you buy them quite big (say 4' tall), you'll often find that a 3' or even 2' tall one will overtake it in a few years.
Hmm.. I don't think I can wait that long. I've become more impatient in my old age. If I've got a problem I don't hang around; I'll kill it or cure it. If all else fails I'll just move house and pay them back later at my own leisure. (Nudge nudge :evil: ).

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Also, if you DO eventually fall out with them, you'll need to think about what you do with the far side of your 8' hedge in 5 years time.
Let it grow to 12' :twisted: I'm not unsociable, far from, I'm a very lovely man :D But I don't want to feel like I'm living in a fish bowl. At first I thought they were just friendly, which they are, but I'm beginning to think she's a bunny boiler. I just bet she's got night vision goggles and a stethoscope. I do know that there was a rift between them and the old couple who used to live in my house and I'm beginning to wonder things :scratchchin:

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Anyway, maybe if you DID smoke weed in the nude in your back garden it would stop the problem in it's tracks??? :lol:
Or get a bigger audience. :P "Hey look daddy, that man's got a todger like yours only smaller". :D

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Mole wrote:
I don't know if it's the same with hedging plants but with trees, if you buy them quite big (say 4' tall), you'll often find that a 3' or even 2' tall one will overtake it in a few years. The bigger they are, the more damage to the root system you do when digging them up and re-planting them. they then seem to just stand still for a few years while they repair their root systems. I've had a few trees where that has happened, but don't know if bushy hedge-like things are the same.


True, but this does not apply to container grown stock (which almost everything is these days) whose roots romp away when planted.


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Big Tone wrote:
...they have a special offer on Cotoneaster which are normally £12.91 each. I will need 18 in total @ 3 plants per metre. The quote I’ve had which includes VAT and delivery is £206. That’s a lot of money to me...

You need a hedge fund manger to advise you. :D

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malcolmw wrote:
Big Tone wrote:
...they have a special offer on Cotoneaster which are normally £12.91 each. I will need 18 in total @ 3 plants per metre. The quote I’ve had which includes VAT and delivery is £206. That’s a lot of money to me...

You need a hedge fund manger to advise you. :D

:lol: (& groan :P )

Have you taken leaf of your senses? I didn't twig it at first. Maybe I'm just barking up the wrong tree? Do you take me for some kind of sap? :D

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You need a hedge fund manger to advise you. :D



Naw - I'd be looking for a plant manager ,and a plant maintenance bloke . :D

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I dunno! I leaf this thread for a few hours, and when I come back it's gone all silly!

Tone, I seriously think you need to carry out a root-and-branch review of your options!


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I dunno! I leaf this thread for a few hours, and when I come back it's gone all silly!

Tone, I seriously think you need to carry out a root-and-branch review of your options!

And possibly an underlying source of problems . And for that ,you might just need a Mole .

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Enough! I'd like to get back to grass roots now please. :D

Ah, sod it...

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Tone, have you thought about a Coneifer hedge...;-)

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