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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 15:04 
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I’d still rather have no dog and bark myself. :D

I’m single for a start, so when I’m at work it would be howling its head off and when I get back I’ll find a neighbour has put a brick through my window.

Then every time you want to go somewhere you’ve got to take it with you and I don’t think it would like being bungied on the back of my motorbike. Either that or someone’s got to look after it when you go away. And then when they die it rips your heart out. Then there’s the Vet bills which are ridiculous; I think toe clipping is about £300 now, each nail. :D

And what’s with the face licking? If I could lick my bum and then offered to kiss you I don’t think you would be too happy, but dogs get away with it for some reason. :?

It’s gross! I once heard someone say their saliva is sterile or something. Okay, so if I could lick my bum and then wipe my tongue with a bit of Detol you’ll be happy to pucker up eh? :P

And why is it when the doorbell rings the dog always thinks it’s for him? :D (Still trying the gags here Graball). :P

I can see one advantage.. When you take it for walkies you get to meet some nice women with dogs, so while the dogs are doing the 69 sniff you get to chat her up. I don’t know what opening line I would use mind. :scratchchin: Maybe something original like “So you have a dog then?”

Oh I’m good with the chat up lines you know? :P

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Then every time you want to go somewhere you’ve got to take it with you and I don’t think it would like being bungied on the back of my motorbike.

I saw a guy the other day riding a pushbike which had an extended platform between the saddle and the front wheels on which his collie-type dog was sitting. Somehow I doubt whether it was DCB :P

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Well trained working dogs don't bother me.

Would those by the type that have attacked people, or that which are going to attack people? :P

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All dogs are dangerous - wolves without the fear of man.
There are two kinds of dogs - those that have attacked people and those that are going to attack people.


Do you not include well-trained working dogs within "all dogs" then?


Yes. They fall into the second category. But, for such a dog, the mean time to an attack is greater than any dogs lifetime. :o

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All dogs are dangerous - wolves without the fear of man.
There are two kinds of dogs - those that have attacked people and those that are going to attack people.


Do you not include well-trained working dogs within "all dogs" then?


Yes. They fall into the second category. But the frequency of attacks with such dogs is very much lower. Nor do their owners treat it as a joke when they do.

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Some of the nicest kindest dogs I meet are through PAT :)

This could almost be caption competition material. I think the dog is wearing sunglasses too :D

Dog says to rider “Now don’t get speeding, we don’t want to do anything dangerous”.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 16:10 
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I’m single for a start, so when I’m at work it would be howling its head off and when I get back I’ll find a neighbour has put a brick through my window.

If you choose the right breed, they are fine. Bosley is alone from 0730 to 1700 every day, and as far as we know he just sleeps. But he's very happy when we do get in. Even better, I offer him a walk to get rid of all that pent up energy :roll: and he doesn't want to go. Bulldogs are great.

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Then every time you want to go somewhere you’ve got to take it with you and I don’t think it would like being bungied on the back of my motorbike. Either that or someone’s got to look after it when you go away.

That's why I have to have a sensible family hatchback (as you know :wink:) rather than the sports car I'd love as he goes around with us. But our lovely neighbour will look after him. Our gardens have a connecting gate which she opens, and her dog and Bosley just run about together like a pair of pups, despite a combined age of about 20.

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And then when they die it rips your heart out.

:( but it's better to have loved and lost and all that. I've had six dogs in my life and all hurt when they dies but I'm glad we had them all.

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Then there’s the Vet bills which are ridiculous; I think toe clipping is about £300 now, each nail. :D

Despite being a so-called overbred pedigree dog, Bosley has had an operation on each eye, at £135 each, and maybe six appointments at <£40 over his annual checks in 6.5 years. I cut his nails, but he doesn't like it much. He actually knows when I'm thinking about doing it, and goes and hides in his cage before I even get the clippers. :lol:

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I can see one advantage.. When you take it for walkies you get to meet some nice women with dogs...

:yesyes: A cute dog is a chick magnet.

What's that? You want a picture? Ok then, someone has to go first...

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Bosley reminds me of my favourite dog, my girlfrind's when I was working in The States. She was called Toppy, a Pug. They look like they could have come from the same stable. Toppy and Bosley, not Bosley and my girlfriend :D

When I left to come back to England it broke my heart, more so than leaving my girlfriend Carrie behind.

Toppy used to like eating cat poo. Carrie didn’t mind it licking her face; used to say it was good for exfoliating her skin.

I didn’t kiss her very often…

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We did a canine first aid course a few years ago. There was a collective sigh of relief when the vet instructor said "Mouth to mouth resuscitation has been shown to be ineffective with dogs" :)

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Some of the nicest kindest dogs I meet are through PAT :)

This could almost be caption competition material. I think the dog is wearing sunglasses too :D

Dog says to rider “Now don’t get speeding, we don’t want to do anything dangerous”.

Dog finds better way of chasing cats.

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Or "Rover ,I know were friends ,BUT" .OR similar ( keeping it clean - think of the children) :D

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And then when they die it rips your heart out.

:( but it's better to have loved and lost and all that. I've had six dogs in my life and all hurt when they dies but I'm glad we had them all.



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I can see one advantage.. When you take it for walkies you get to meet some nice women with dogs...

:yesyes: A cute dog is a chick magnet.

What's that? You want a picture? Ok then, someone has to go first...

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Bosley now:

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Dogs - lost my first pet ( present from an aunt when I was three) about twelve years on . Poisoned, we suspect .Next one ,when I was at local secondary school , he used to get out , walk the mile or two to the school ,and sit outside . Then he'd sit on my knee ,on my cycle ( was all mostly downhill) to home .Then as I got a car ,he decided that the front passenger seat was his .Had several others , before going and returning from Zimbabwe ( where they were all guard dogs-pets to us ,but expendable if we were attacked ) .Back home we rescued a collie ,who a stack of pups .In her later days ,she was content to be a house dog ( both of us worked) ,she had food/water ,and all home comforts ,she'd never had as a stray .She'd raise her head on the mornings to get a pat ,put it back down ,and look at us to say "get going".Any other dog ,i'd say it would be cruel , but for her ,she had a loving home and her benefits .She died as a result of (IMHO) of two motorists not giving me sufficient rear space and ramming me twice in the rear end .
Now ,ten years on , I've got another rescue dog - this time it's my favourite breed - Cairn Terrier . And ,Bird Magnate - you ain't seen anything compared to him . He dotes on teenage kids, mostly girls ,who seem to find him irresistible .If he goes missing -just look for a group of young girls ,and Toby will usually be in the middle .
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RobinXe wrote:
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All dogs are dangerous - wolves without the fear of man.
There are two kinds of dogs - those that have attacked people and those that are going to attack people.


Do you not include well-trained working dogs within "all dogs" then?



Possibly dcb's problem is not understanding dogs - dogs are social animals , they will come to you ,to see of you are friendly - or perhaps you might have a titbit-( if you show fear, which they an smell) if you're not a "doggy person , ad you know you're going to be around dogs -carry some tit bits - makes for a better understanding between dogs and man .

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Possibly dcb's problem is not understanding dogs
But he does understand them, according to what he said. I don't understand why he and his family have had so much grief from dogs, hence my scepticism, but I have no reason to disbelieve what he says. (Sorry to talk like you’re not here dcb).

Personal experiences affect us. I could easily hate all women, but that’s because I am a heterosexual man and I have bad experiences because of my relationships with the ‘gentler sex’.

But if I was gay I am in no doubt I would probably say all men are all bitches and if I was born a lesbian I would probably say all women are whores. (I could probabaly have put that better but you know what I mean)

It’s all relative....

(Hope I didn't say anything there which should be censored; just trying to tell it as it is)

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If you choose the right breed, they are fine. Bosley is alone from 0730 to 1700 every day, and as far as we know he just sleeps.
You nearly got that past me, you devil.

A guy I worked with said exactly the same. His neighbours, so he eventually found out, had a very different opinion.

But I'm sure yours is fine :) ;)

I’m not fibbing JtB, honestly!

Andy had a Staff and he ended up with a neighbour who went from human to ape over it – seriously!

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When we're at home during the day for some reason he's out for the count, equally if I get home earlier he takes a while to come to. I think he just uses the day time to catch up so he can harass me in the evening. For example, let's see what he's doing right now....

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-carry some tit bits - makes for a better understanding between dogs and man .


That is a bit like saying "Carry a few gold watches to give to muggers, then they won't have to beat you up" :lol: I rather resent having to protect myself from dogs in that way, just as I would resent having to wear a bullet proof vest if people were allowed to go round discharging firearms in public.

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But he does understand them, according to what he said. I don't understand why he and his family have had so much grief from dogs, hence my scepticism, but I have no reason to disbelieve what he says.


I think it is because we do a lot of walking. Farm dogs - the yard dogs not the working dogs - are notoriously fierce and not always securely chained. In my footpath work we get frequent reports of walkers not being able to use a path through a farmyard because of dogs. And not a few actual attacks when they do. Most farms have several dogs and the Police can't act unless you can identify the dog. But you rarely pause to ask the dog's name whilst it is attempting to sink its teeth in your arse. :) Some of our inspectors carry "Dog Dazers" and I am going to ask Santa Clause for one.

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-carry some tit bits - makes for a better understanding between dogs and man .


That is a bit like saying "Carry a few gold watches to give to muggers, then they won't have to beat you up" :lol: I rather resent having to protect myself from dogs in that way, just as I would resent having to wear a bullet proof vest if people were allowed to go round discharging firearms in public.


Or locking your house or car?


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Or locking your house or car?


Exactly . What dcb probably doesn't understand ( from the farm dog thingy) is that he expects all dogs to be like the poodle down the park - these dogs he's complaining about are working dogs ,on their own home turf - he's the intruder .And unlike humans where we have several stages -dogs are like logic states - on or off .(friend or foe) .Has any one from your group even tried to make friends with these dogs ,or just treated them as vermin - don't know if I have mentioned my dad's job as a postman . At first all dogs on his round were hostile , then slowly but surely he won them round .In twelve years he was bitten once - a scratch ,as soon as the dog attacked ,those friendly to dad struck and the attacker had to be rescued .
You and dogs have a problem - problems are caused by differences on both sides . Dogs can't talk to pass out their grievances . But their body language says a lot .
As said -dogs are social animals - they approach , ( especially the farm ones ,who are part wild) -looking to see if you are friend or foe .
Suggest if you are a serious walker ,that you contact some dogs group to see how you should approach a strange dog ,and appear as a friend .
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-carry some tit bits - makes for a better understanding between dogs and man .


That is a bit like saying "Carry a few gold watches to give to muggers, then they won't have to beat you up" :lol: I rather resent having to protect myself from dogs in that way, just as I would resent having to wear a bullet proof vest if people were allowed to go round discharging firearms in public.



Again ,you're giving animals powers as of humans - :headbash: They're not like us . There's two ways to befriend a nasty dog - and I find that the through the stomach is most effective ,given that most dogs treated as these won't get treats ( not chicken ,but a packet of 77p chew sticks,) break them up-throw them a bit ,and they look on you as a friend ( in doggy terms a higher order dog ,as you provide food).
And once you're accepted as a higher order animal - they'll respect you ,and the aggression might just stop .

It's called animal physiology( or the way to walk through wild dogs and not get bitten) .

Try it -Who knows -you might even have a farm pack wanting to go walkies,and wanting you to throw sticks for them .

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Exactly . What dcb probably doesn't understand ( from the farm dog thingy) is that he expects all dogs to be like the poodle down the park -


Not at all. i simply want dog owners to behave like gun owners. To understand that you don't bring your gun or your dog into the public arena where it is perceived by the general public as a threat to their safety.

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