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Another instance where the cameras command the respect they deserve!


Sounds to me like the camera went some way to encouraging this reckless riding Do you reckon they would have done that with trafpol?

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If it's where I think it is - it's a reaction from a mob who think that they're above the law .The legal bikers are fed up with them ,so perhaps there might have been a bit of info passing . Son on law & daughter live up that way and it's not uncommon to see this sort of activity on the adjacent council ( not that I'm condemning council estates) estate - lost count of number of times that I've had to take emergency evasive action with the likes of these . We used to see similar activity years ago , in chav vehicles .I asked one BIB why no reaction -answer -leave them alone and the fun goes out of game . Pity the androids in charge of the so called safety program couldn't see things this way ,and call on the county off road bike team to deal with it .
Not condoning the activity - none of us on here should condone taking the P out of "road safety equipment( ) " - but they've seen just how easy it is to mess up the so called road safety program ,which depends on registered keepers etc .................

OH-and next week ,they'll be doing it either on that camera ,or another ,this time on another bike ,with balaclavas .Possibly they're the best reason for a return to having trafBIB back on the roads .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

No mention of the sentence for stealing the bike...

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Regulation without education merely creates more criminals.

As a point of information, if you are the pillion pasenger on a bike (or a passenger in a car for that matter) what motoring offences can you be charged with? You are not in control of the vehicle and can have only a marginal effect on the behaviour of the person who is. Can your licence be endorsed if you are not the "captain"?

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Malcolm W.
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There was a case recently where the passenger in a car was convicted of "causing death by careless driving when under the influence of drugs" because he was judged as having exercised influence over the driver – who was both his employee and his lover. I think that it may also be possible to be convicted of "causing or permitting" drink driving if someone, believing they are over the limit, persuades another person to drive their car who doesn't have a full driving licence, or in any case is not insured to drive it.

Better be careful with this one – we don't want a new offence created of passengers in "speeding" cars being regarded as accessories to the offence

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That’s very interesting Malcolm and raises a good point. If, as a believer of speed kills, you are a passenger in a car where the driver is speeding, should you not act on this because if you truly and passionately believe that message then surely you have a duty of care to yourself and others?

This could be by asking the driver to slow down and if the driver doesn’t you could ask him to stop so you can remove yourself from the situation and get a taxi or bus etc. But I bet they don't, the hypocrites.

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

If you look at this http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?173503-FULL-Unabridged-List-of-Motoring-Offence-Codes. you will see that there are several categories of "Aiding, Abetting, Counselling Or Procuring ", "Causing Or Permitting", and "Inciting" a primary offence.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Is this not moot? I thought the gist was that they were both riders at some point throughout the escapade.

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Sky news didn't post all of the pairs story .
Nuneaton NEWS ARTICLE

From the local paper "Justices banned both Giess of Oakroyd Crescent and Farmer of Camphill Road from driving for 12 months after they were charged with a total of 22 offences.

Giess admitted a total of 14 charges, consisting of one charge of receiving stolen goods, three charges of driving without a licence, no insurance, and excess speed, two charges of not wearing a helmet and two charges of possession of cannabis.

He was ordered to pay £100 compensation, carry out a 120 hours community order, was put on 12 month supervision order, and was disqualified from driving for 12 months.

Farmer pleaded guilty to eight charges; two for driving with no licence, insurance, speeding and no helmet. He was disqualified from driving for 12 months and fined £200"



But isn't remarkable that without local intelligence ,as usual ,they would not have been recognised .Shows the value of PC human OVER pc Gatso .

What I notice round this way is that for a few years now those on bikes with no plates /mini motos/ etc have all had helmets on .Think thery've realised that no helmet gets instant attention ( and recognition) .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on