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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:41 
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Cambridgeshire County Council have openly admitted that one of their reasons for cutting speed limits was to encourage cycling :roll:

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"New speed limits are being introduced in four villages on the outskirts of Cambridge to improve road safety and to get more people travelling by bike."

Nice to see it stated in print that it isn't all about safety, and one of the motivations behind speed limit cutting is to make life worse for motorists. Obviously the "war on the motorist" is still being enthusiastically waged in Cambridgeshire.

And surely if it is known that speed limits are being set for reasons of social engineering, it only serves to bring them yet further into disrepute.

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Gareth Bell - (Cambridge County Council) wrote:
Reference: PR1402/2010 Author: Gareth Bell Release Date: 25/08/2010

Reduced speed limits to help improve road safety

New speed limits are being introduced in four villages on the outskirts of Cambridge to improve road safety and to get more people travelling by bike.
Residents and local councillors called for the speed limits to be reviewed and highway bosses have been able to work with local people to agree reductions that will mean all road users benefit.

A new 40mph speed limit is already in place in Histon from the A14 roundabout to Histon Football Club, replacing the national speed limit, and a 30mph speed limit has been introduced from the football club entrance to just beyond The Green.

From mid-September there will be a new 50mph speed limit between Histon and Cottenham and a 40mph speed limit will replace the national speed limit between Grantchester and Trumpington.

The introduction of the new speed limits in Histon and Impington are being carried out in conjunction with improvements to the cycle routes along the B1049 that are already underway.

They are part of the wider Cycle Cambridge programme, funded by Cycling England, which will see around £7 million invested on new infrastructure and promotions to get more people cycling, more safely and more often.

Cambridgeshire County Councillor Mac McGuire, Cabinet Member for Highways, said “The County Council is committed to improving safety on our roads for all road users. By reducing speed limits and improving cycle routes we hope to encourage more people to choose to cycle, particularly for local journeys. Cycling helps to keep you fit and more people cycling means less congestion on the roads for those people who need to use their cars.”

The project is being managed and delivered by Cambridgeshire County Council in partnership with Cambridge City Council and South Cambridgeshire District Council.

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For further information, contact Mike Davies, Cycle Cambridge Programme Manager on (01223) 699913 or Hayley Taylor on (01223) 699907.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:46 
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I guess they don't cycle themselves.

It's really not nice to be riding along with a car behind you which can't pass because of the speed limit.


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I guess they don't cycle themselves.

It's really not nice to be riding along with a car behind you which can't pass because of the speed limit.


i quite agree.
lower speed differentials in my experience increases the potential for conflict.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 13:12 
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Me too! - From both sides of the fence. As a driver, I don't like being next to cyclists any longer than is strictly necessary and if I'm on a pushbike, I DEFINITELY don't like it!

It is, however, further vindication of a belief that I have long held that speed limit reductions are just one part of a whole package of measures designed to artificially make the car a less appealing option. Any government worth voting for should have spotted this by now!


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It's a bit like the many attempts to 'encourage' public transport use.

Most - like filling in bus stops and putting islands next to them - seem to be more about making car use less attractive, which is not the same thing.


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It is, however, further vindication of a belief that I have long held that speed limit reductions are just one part of a whole package of measures designed to artificially make the car a less appealing option. Any government worth voting for should have spotted this by now!

As once said by Fiends of the Earth and quoted on the ABD website, "Speed limits should be made very low and rigidly enforced to take all the glamour out of motoring."

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"Fiends..." Very funny.

The trouble with all these "holier than thou" groups is that they want to take the fun out of everything, not just driving. They need to "get a life" and start enjoying themselves instead of behaving like WeeFrees at a wake. You're along time dead.

Personally, I don't really care what might happen to the world after I am dead. Our children are so much cleverer than us (well, they must be, just look at the exam results) and they will solve all the planets problems easily. Don't panic!

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It isn't cars per se that matter, it is peoples right to transport themselves where they want, when they want.

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“... because auto use is massively popular, anti-car advocates find it prudent to disguise their opposition to cars by calling for measures for which some other goal can be claimed — saving old cities, preserving the environment, encouraging cycling.”


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Attempts to "get people out of their cars" are almost complete failures both in this country and throughout the world. Cars simply do transport work better for most people and most journeys than the alternatives that are offered as replacements for them.


http://www.labreform.org/anti-car.html

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OK Fiends. I'm just off in the Aston to pointlessly drive round and use up some of the world's resources. :D

I don't want to stop you vegan tree huggers eating gruel and flagellating yourself so you feel better. I don't even want to stop you cycling back from the supermarket laden with lentils on a wet day. Return the compliment. Get off my back and let me get on with what I enjoy.

The difference between a typical fiend and me is that I don't necessarily think I am right all the time.

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OK Fiends. I'm just off in the Aston to pointlessly drive round and use up some of the world's resources. :D

I don't want to stop you vegan tree huggers eating gruel and flagellating yourself so you feel better. I don't even want to stop you cycling back from the supermarket laden with lentils on a wet day. Return the compliment. Get off my back and let me get on with what I enjoy.

The difference between a typical fiend and me is that I don't necessarily think I am right all the time.


That is the silliest post I have seen for a long time on this or any other forum. You are equating your freedom to break something with other peoples right to glue the shattered remnants back together.

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OK Fiends. I'm just off in the Aston to pointlessly drive round and use up some of the world's resources. :D

I don't want to stop you vegan tree huggers eating gruel and flagellating yourself so you feel better. I don't even want to stop you cycling back from the supermarket laden with lentils on a wet day. Return the compliment. Get off my back and let me get on with what I enjoy.

The difference between a typical fiend and me is that I don't necessarily think I am right all the time.

:clap:

Excellent post, and something that the lentil-munchers will get very upset about but won't really understand why ;)

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p.s. Oh, and you aren't wasting "some of the world's resources", you are simply recycling some stuff from a few million years ago ;)


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malcolmw wrote:
OK Fiends. I'm just off in the Aston to pointlessly drive round and use up some of the world's resources. :D

I don't want to stop you vegan tree huggers eating gruel and flagellating yourself so you feel better. I don't even want to stop you cycling back from the supermarket laden with lentils on a wet day. Return the compliment. Get off my back and let me get on with what I enjoy.

The difference between a typical fiend and me is that I don't necessarily think I am right all the time.



:clap: :clap: :clap: And for me , drive a bit in a low gear,just to add some noise to the argument ,though ,no doubt you'll have some sound=speed person assume you're going at the speed of sound ,just because you sound like it .
What really puzzles me is that those most opposed to car transport on the grounds of pollution ,never ask why buses can get away with clouds of black carcinogenic smoke belching out ,without any increase in tax ,whilst any car showing the slightest sign of smokiness gets automatically tagged "child killer",or even worse "kitten cruncher".

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p.s. Oh, and you aren't wasting "some of the world's resources", you are simply recycling some stuff from a few million years ago ;)


How mucking ignorant can one man be? :o

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p.s. Oh, and you aren't wasting "some of the world's resources", you are simply recycling some stuff from a few million years ago ;)


:clap: :clap: ,nice one mb- though no doubt some won't get it .Dinosaurs rarely joke at those things that caused their demise .

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and one of the motivations behind speed limit cutting is to make life worse for motorists.



One of the most self centred posts I've seen for a fair while!


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How can something that talks about motoristS (plural) be "self" centred? One might argue, wih similar validity that horse riders on public roads are far more self-centred, as there are far fewer of them than there are motorists, could one not?


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Oh, horse riders really piss me off. They pay no road tax, ride an animal which is designed more for soft ground than tarmac on tarmac roads, then look at you with disgust if you pass them at anything more than 5 MPH at a distance of 15 feet or more. I can understand why people want to ride horses but WHY on roads...if I had a horse I would want to go trotting/galloping across fields and woodland tracks not trot at 5MPH on a country road with more blind bends than potholes.

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on a country road with more blind bends than potholes.



Only stupid driving turns a bend into a blind bend.


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boomer wrote:
p.s. Oh, and you aren't wasting "some of the world's resources", you are simply recycling some stuff from a few million years ago ;)



Er, when we drive out cars we are actually participating in putting earth's old atmosphere (which was mostly buried underground) back into its current one.

Really bad idea IMO, it was quite poisonous and hot back then.


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Sorry weepey, I forget that you can see round hairpins, forgive us mortals for our sins.

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