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Not you but ...

Pete has decided that the report is clutching at straws.
Johnny has already decided which road the experiment used.
Roaduser is relying on anecdotal evidence.
Nigel is generalising from a single instance.
Peter tells us that the author has already made up his mind.
And, as usual, I am not quite clear what point Botach is making.

If Brake where so slovenly in their approach to some research they would be torn to pieces here.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

...which, on analysis, means roughly one fewer car journey per month per motorist. Can't see that making a discernible difference to anything except the bus companies' profits.

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Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler

Hang on a bit. That's not prejudging anything - merely a comment that they'll jump at anything which in some way justifies their anti-car policies/mentality. What the research actually says is neither here nor there.

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Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler

Prejudged?




Roaduser did not give any judgement on the paper
Nigel did not give any judgement on the paper
jomukuk did not give any judgement on the paper
Dusty jested "(Seriously...." [you suffered a SOH failure there Dave]
teabelly rightly pointed out a confounding factor (as I did) and did not give any judgement on the paper
(Pete317 has spoken for himself)
PeterE rightly pointed out the aims of the research according to the journalist (to convince us to give up cars) - judgement here is quite fair.
JTB gave possible explanations to a question he posed - you very conveniently quoted there Dave.
You admitted to not understanding botach, so how you were ably to pass judgement with his post I don't know!

So much for "all". Your assessment is not withstanding scrutiny. Perhaps you misjudged others, just as you had evidently done with me?
so what are you trying to achieve !!!

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There's a difference between "research" and a "forum". I was "speculating", not deciding which road had been used.

Really dcb, you're not even trying these days. If you find us all so slovenly I'm surprised you can be bothered to post replies any more.

I trust dcb won't be commenting in future on any news item until he has studied the original research report underpinning it in detail…

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

Well on the few occasions I have travelled by bus recently, I have been appalled at the standard of driving. The bus starts off and you are nearly thrown to the back of the bus, when it brakes and you get thrown towards the front, especially if you are in the middle seat at the back, and when it corners you are struggling to stay in your seat. It seems as if most bus drivers have had a row with their wives before they started work or think they are practicing for a grand prix. So far from being relaxed I find buses totally the opposite.

Then of course there is the convenience factor. The other weekend we went to the Bournemouth Air show and were persuaded by friends to go by National Coach. We were booked for the 19.00 coach home, but unfortunately, due to inclement weather by 16.00 the show was cancelled. By the time we walked back to the coach station it was 16.45 but then had to wait around until 19.00. I will not be persuaded to go by coach again.

Remind me of this thread if he does, Peter!

I’m just going on my personal experience of them for months on end when I had no other choice. It was truly horrible! They are covered in graffiti, stank from what I assume was the previous night’s bingers, rubbish and empty bottles rolling up and down the walkway and as for the smoking ban – what smoking ban? Even the driver smoked on the Midland Red I used and this is only going back a few years.

I also suffered the 'running for the bus just as the driver bogs-off on purpose’ routine. Of course one day we will have reg plates stuck on our bums and speed cameras on the pavements to stop us running for the bus anyway…

I did the same as you once Nigel where I caught a coach/bus thing from Digbeth in Birmingham to get to Heath Row Airport. After two hours I had got as far a Coventry while it went around the entire planet picking every Tom, Dick and Harry up..

Oddly enough, the last time I used one was with a person on this forum and it was quite a pleasant and peaceful experience but expensive. The time before that was something they call a “Short Hop” which was about £1.60 to go a couple of stops. It was one of the biggest rip-offs and disincentives I’ve come across in a long time.

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

...what's a bus?

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Argus

GreenerJourneys

Yawn.
There is a video to watch about this on the GJ website.......loads of CO2 savings to be made....

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing