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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 17:08 
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Hey guys i'm new here so hello to everyone! :lol:

My question is....

A truvelo camera is pointing at traffic coming towards it...does it also monitor traffic driving past and away from it on the other side of the road..at the same time?

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Cheers Gixxer..very direct reply :)

I just noticed on their website that they are also "approved for rear photography".... i assume they can only be used in 1 direction at a time?


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Some Truvelos, although they still catch vehicles from the front, are set up so that they look like rear-facing cameras, sometimes even to the extent of having Gatso calibration lines painted on the road on the lens side. There are several examples of this in Derbyshire, such as on the A6 at Darley Dale.

Sneaky? Well, what do you expect from the scammers? :x

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This photo from the truvelo site....

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I think one camera can be set up to do approaching and receding on both sides of the road (ie. pointed left and right and swung around the other way). However I think that they need to be repositioned for each use, so they can't do approaching/receding at the same time.

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BigJim wrote:
I just noticed on their website that they are also "approved for rear photography".... i assume they can only be used in 1 direction at a time?

That is correct Jim.

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Seems strange they would even install the rear facing facility if they can get the better "face on" picture


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Indeed Jim, because we both know that a rear facing picture doesn't prove that the registered keeper is guilty of anything.

In fact, all the rear facing picture proves is that a certain make/model/colour of vehicle went past a camera in excess of the speed limit.
It certainly doesn't identify the driver, and it definately doesn't prove that the vehicle is NOT a clone :wink:

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Thanks for the response guys. I just get very nervous around cameras...as a new driver i fall into the "6 points and youre out" bracket. I dont tend to speed that much anyway, certainly not around cameras...but i suffer from what i call "camera anxiety" where even if im 10mph under the limit i still worry!!!!


So a truvelo definitely wont catch me from behind?


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BigJim wrote:
Seems strange they would even install the rear facing facility if they can get the better "face on" picture

Hampshire say that they can use rear photography in certain locations when they are challenged that Truvelo's are ineffective against motorcyclists. I'm not sure how often rear photography is used but I imagine it's not very often.

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BigJim wrote:
So a truvelo definitely wont catch me from behind?

Whichever way the lens is facing, is the way that the picture is taken.

Although Truevelo can be used just like a Gatso, the mode of operation is set when the camera is first switched on and the only way it can be changed is with human intervention.

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Cheers Gixxer. The one im talking about is the one in fareham by the viaduct.


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BigJim wrote:
Seems strange they would even install the rear facing facility if they can get the better "face on" picture


My boss's car got snapped by a forward facing camera. He asked for the photo and when he got it the quality was so bad that the drivers face could hardly be see. Now he can't remember who was driving... :roll:

His partner has a French national.....interesting to see how this one turns out.. :twisted:

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Gizmo wrote:
My boss's car got snapped by a forward facing camera. He asked for the photo and when he got it the quality was so bad that the drivers face could hardly be see. Now he can't remember who was driving... :roll:

I don't think they wear the old "I can't remember who was driving" excuse any more.
However, if the picture quality is that bad then my answer would simply be "I have no recollection of being on that road at that time, can you prove the vehicle in the photograph is actually mine & not a clone?"

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Gixxer wrote:
I don't think they wear the old "I can't remember who was driving" excuse any more.


No I agree....but he has a back up plan...in the shape of a named driver with a French driving licence.. :wink:

Its just a pity its not posible to make out who was driving from the photo.. :shock:

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Gixxer wrote:
BigJim wrote:
So a truvelo definitely wont catch me from behind?

Whichever way the lens is facing, is the way that the picture is taken.


Which goes without saying, since a camera can't take a photo of something unless the lens is facing in its direction ;) That still leaves the unanswered question of which mode is the Truvelo operating in... Examination of the road markings might give you a clue - in rear facing mode there ought to be the same secondary check markings as you get at Gatso sites, whereas in front facing mode there should just be the "Truvelo-style" markings

Front-facing check marks
Rear-facing check marks

Of course, I wouldn't put it past the local SCP to paint both sets of marks across the entire width of the carriageway, making it difficult/impossible to tell which mode the camera was operating in...


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This road has both on it. I wasn't speeding anyway.... I just have this anxiety sometimes its hard to quell! lol


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Twister wrote:
That still leaves the unanswered question of which mode is the Truvelo operating in...

I would think it's pretty obvious which mode the Truevelo would be operating in, it will be operating in whatever way it is facing

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That still leaves the unanswered question of which mode is the Truvelo operating in...

I would think it's pretty obvious which mode the Truevelo would be operating in, it will be operating in whatever way it is facing


Sorry, but it's not obvious at all. Looking at the camera casing, the only thing you can state with absolute certainty is the direction in which the camera is pointing. You CANNOT state with any certainty whether the camera will then be taking photos of the front or rear of passing vehicles. As I said before, it's obvious that the camera can only operate in whichever direction its facing - it has to be able to see the vehicle it's taking a photo of - but it isn't at all obvious which end of the vehicle it's looking to take a photo of...


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