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It puzzles me why they put those white "Keep Clear" (and which part of that is difficult to understand?) instead of a proper yellow box.


Technically I would argue that the lines I put down are on my drive, not on the public road. Though, because there is no kerb, the actual delimination is very vague. When it comes to arguing that there are sufficient passing places the end of my drive gets counted as public but when it comes to resurfacing (distant memory that) it suddenly becomes private.

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Ah, soz. No defamation intended. Two different situations then.

The 'man who can' also told me there are very strict rules and regs on dimensions, material, distance and overlap etc.

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I suspect there's a difference in terms of how much legal clout they have.

Another that's always puzzled me is the difference between solid white lines and the 'no overtaking' signs with a red car and a black car on.

That's where I was coming from JtB. RED and YELLOW means something.

White basically means absolutely nothing with any sort of enforceable penalty - OR RESPECT.

All it does is give you another argument to use against a twat who doesn't give a sh1t.

Me: "You parked on a white line on my driveway! Can't you see you parked outside my driveway FFS?".

Him/her: "Yeah, so?" or "Sorry, he he.."



It's like you are inside a toilet taking a dump and I'm standing outside blocking the door, when you want to come out, and I'm refusing to move until you ask me or find someone who can!

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I was just wondering if it was really worth getting your blood pressure up about.



We don't like to let a good word go out of fashion round here.

It is a sad truth in life, that when one or more things go wrong or start to 'get to you' it can have a very negative effect on other issues too. I think the truth is that we have to always try to be tolerant but, politely voice our displeasure at an early stage, so that when something like this continues, the offending party and their associates are clearly at fault due to the early awareness and seriousness and the unacceptable nature of the inconvenience caused. Hopefully this way Tone would not have 'needed' to snap and the neighbour plus others would have 'learned' / 'trained' not to park and cause offense ages ago.

I think Tone has been too tolerant for too long, without stating his upset of the problem sooner or more clearly with signs etc ... I think too, that letting the offending party know directly may have started to have a better effect sooner than 'just' informing the neighbour, when that was failing to work i.e. were they passing on the importance of the upset caused, to their friends/clients etc ?
Now that Tone has lost his temper with them, they are now aware of the ongoing upset and the severe upset that it has caused. Whilst it would be nice to think that it won't re-occur, it is likely to, as the cause/s of the problem have not been addressed directly and so remain oblivious! (in some cases).

It also occurs to me how about your neighbour agreeing to have a sign right beside their front door and possibly written on their path (even temporarily - few months) "please ensure that you have not parked in front of our neighbour's drive - thank you".

I think if you do get offered a good price for your property in this neigh static market I'd grab it as it is a buyers market and you might 'easily locate' a better place for less money !
But look at the properties available before making that very serious decision !

What about bollards with 'do not park here' on it ? That way you can still easily ride through them but remain there until you have car visitors ? They are removable and 'obvious'.

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That’s me.

Did that; didn’t work.

I was that snapper. I regret it even though it worked, so far, because I don’t like being in that disturbed state of mind and he turned out to be so good and contrite I realise I reacted based on my stress level and previous experiences of inconsiderate neighbours. Well, and his culpability in the matter which he has since said was his/their responsibility to his credit.

Oddly enough, it feels like it’s brought us closer together and better. Is this why some couples have what looks like a major barney and then kiss and make up with lots of sex and things? I’m more of a don’t upset me and you’ll get better sex type of person. If you upset me you can feck off and have a lamb shank; which means I do too. I think I’m beginning to understand why I’m on my own. Anyway, no matter...

Guilty as accused.

Again, I got that wrong.

I felt really bad when his nine year old son cycled over to me and after a minute of normal banter he said that he’s sorry for the upset and “so is daddy”. So I think it has or will be cascaded down the line of parking clientele, like it was today so I saw.

At the risk of sounding like I’m on the psychiatrists couch.. Because my main tenet in life is to treat others as I would wish to be treated myself, when I see people who don’t follow that very simple doctrine, which is espoused in many religions and hypocrites, it pushes my self destruct button. What's happening today is we, us decent people, are expected to go against our natural extinct even when we are getting shafted. The law doesn't protect us and you can't exact your own revenge right there and then so people go nuts. (I know this from a long close friend/professional in care for the mad and bad who works at a rather well known place in my area.

He said to me long ago that many are in there because of an on-going feud between neighbours which could not be resolved legally and swiftly. (Case in point, my situation where just to get a stupid ineffective white H - Line is £140 out of MY pocket and a two or three month wait FFS).

And so one day someone does something, (could give many examples but can’t), a lot worse than my relative little snapper. This isn't just about my driveway; it's about resolving all and any issue or problem with a neighbour. That is the person who most makes your place heaven or hell and I don't understand why it isn't a high priority with councils because they or 'us' will pick up the tab for inaction later one way or another IMHO.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Personal boundaries are so personal that we all develop our very individual expectations and limits. We may tend to assume that others are the same but this is not necessarily so. We have to allow how other's boundaries are totally different to our own.
This way we don't fall foul of the assumption of telepathy but talk straight and state our case clearly and politely. It takes courage to be so forward but usually saves a vast amount of stress and hassle later. I think over the year's I am better at it ...

I still think that you should erect a sign just in case some total stranger parks there and you mistakenly accuse the neighbour ... it also reinforces the point to all about. Might even make the background of it reflective so it is also seen at night.
I wonder if there is a symbol that could be used really clearly ... I'll have to think on that one.

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Oh! Christ!.....Don't get started on this one. For years now I've had dear Mumsy Wumsies with Tiddly Toddlers parking their Mercs and 4x4's on private land straight in front of my gates to take & retrieve their Kiddies to and from a God fearing, Holy, better than thow! Christian, Love thy neighbour, Catholic school which is across a railway line from me and has access from the other side! The abuse that I've received from them when I've complained after 25 minutes of delay in getting my car out isn't repeatable on this site!

It's total ignorance! Plain and simple......My God they've got some damned need to go to Church!

Sorry to hear it Draco. You have my sympathy, from one irritated person to another...

Here’s the, (slightly edited version), of the letter I received when I got back home tonight...

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“Dear Mr Big Tone,

REQUEST FOR “H” MARKING AT 1 THE LAURELS.

Further to your recent enquiry, I enclose the information required to apply for an advisory H marking on the cariagway outside your home.

An estimate has been prepared and the price for installing your “H” marking is listed below.

Marking of four meters in length £124.80

Total: £124.80



Should you wish to proceed with the installation of the “H” marking, please complete the form and return it in the encloced pre-paid envelope.

Yours sincerely,


A. Nobhead
Constituency Engineer,
Zimbabwee

Tel: 0121 Blah
Fax: 0121 More blah"

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"Installing"???? Are they replacing the phosphor bronze cam bushes on a 1960 BSA motorbike FFS?

(Mods: I am aware that my language is getting worse lately but bullsh1t and iniquity is wearing me down! Always has, always will....)

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I thought that you knew it was to be about £100 or do I recall this incorrectly (not had time to look back ..)

At least you have a letter fairly promptly ?:)
I wonder when it may happen?
Will you go ahead ?

Draco - sorry to hear of your run-in's too with the inconsiderate parents, that i awful.
Perhaps video it and then go take it to your local Police and Council and see if you can persuade them to have a presence around your location from time to time ? (Also a list of number plates too?)

Have you a little used vehicle that you can use as a rolling gate ? Perhaps in time they might become used to not parking at your location? Have you put up a sign 'Entrance in regular use, please refrain from parking here - Your co-operation is appreciated, thank you" Failure to obey will result in your number plate being reported to the Police, kind of thing ?
Have you complained to the School?

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Oh you're absolutely right Claire, you recall it perfectly.

I'm just miffed, incensed, angry, that I have had to go down this route when it's actually just about good manners, respect for others and a time few seem to know today.

I treat people as I would wish to be treated! When I screw up here, as I have on occasion, I apologise. It's not a weakness, or at least it shouldn’t be seen as one although I realise that's how the world is these days sadly.

I need this expense like I need a gay man on my back when I'm trying to pick up a bar of soap in a shower at the local gym I can't afford to use.

But stress is a BIG killer IMO, (and proven I believe), and when I have had skip-load of sadness and things which get me down, the need to know that I am going to a happy place called home, where I do not have to deal with more stress from inconsiderate selfish bastards, is not only important - it's what keeps me going so I can do what I do to help others.

Maybe this should be private, or just not said. Laters...

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.