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I like their piece where they say Top Gear should be called Third Gear and promote sensible driving. Are they being ironic?


I use 3rd gear for "positive" acceleration while making progress ( within the limit and where safe ), somehow i don't think they would see this as sensible
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Top Gear gets many viewers who are not interested in cars, and in this Politically Correct age ( especially the BBC ) it is refreshing to have such a show on tv.

The presenters do not take themselves seriously, and any program that gets Richard Brunstrom upset is a valuable public service :lol:


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:gatso2: Dear oh dear, you poor little dears at T2000. Did the nasty Jeremy and his subversive programme hurt you :cry: Oh dear, that's really bad.

Right, comiserations over, lets see what stupid excuses T2000 have made for promoting censorship.

"This is not about censorship or having a poor sense of humor" :twisted: Actually it is about censorship

"To test the claims made for a 4x4, the programme really did try to take the vehicle to the top of a mountain in Scotland, through a sensitive peat bog causing substantial ecological damage." :hissyfit: Oh dear, I wasn't aware that peat bogs had feelings. :hissyfit:

"In an infamous episode, Jeremy Clarkson tore up information from Transport 2000's website, presenting the dangers of speed" :no: :hissyfit: OH JEREMY, HOW COULD YOU EXCERCISE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH LIKE THAT :o THAT WILL NOT DO!

I believe T2000 should shut up. Just supposing they had their way, what would be next? Fifth gear, British Touring Car Championships, WRC, F1, Superbikes? I don't want to watch programmes where nice people do nice things. :twisted: T2000, GET STUFFED!

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Of course I love the program, when I get to see it, but you'd expect that because I am male and I drive an M3 BMW and I am a self confessed hoon.

But, gee, what about my wife. She also drives her own M3 BMW and she absolutely adores her car. One of her favourite pasttimes is to go to the track on club days and whip the collective arses of about 50% of the male drivers.

And amazingly, she likes the program too.

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I use 3rd gear for "positive" acceleration while making progress ( within the limit and where safe ), somehow i don't think they would see this as sensible
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Just checked. I can get 90 in 3rd... :roll:

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PeterE wrote:
http://www.transport2000.org.uk/news/maintainNewsArticles.asp?NewsArticleID=239

You couldn't make it up!


I'd love to see the BBC sack that smirking grammar school boy, Jeremy Clarkson. As for the show itself, it should be called should be put into Reverse Gear, because, in it’s current form, it’s a biased consumerist homage to car-ism that has no place on the BBC.

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http://www.transport2000.org.uk/news/maintainNewsArticles.asp?NewsArticleID=239

You couldn't make it up!


I'd love to see the BBC sack that smirking grammar school boy, Jeremy Clarkson. As for the show itself, it should be called should be put into Reverse Gear, because, in it’s current form, it’s a biased consumerist homage to car-ism that has no place on the BBC.

Basingwerk, I'm truly disappointed in this post of yours.

1. Are you serious? Or did I miss the smileys :?
2. "smirking grammar school" etc., surely you can see this is irrelevant to the argument?
3. "biased consumerist homage to car-ism" is this illegal? Would you like car-ism to be illegal?
4. What else should we ban because some individuals "disapprove"?


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Come on we expect this from basingwerk these days. Personally I love the show. I watch it, and then I watch the repeats on UKTV people (a channel that show TV for ALL people). I love Jeremys middle aged crisis attitude, Richards child like enthusiasm, and in total contrast, the dad like James.
The show is a total hoot, with last seasons DB9 & Ferrari races through France I thought the show had reached its peak. I look forward to the new season starting on May 22nd. As for those who don't like it, press the remote switch and go and watch Inspector Morse.

PS the current Top Gear magazine has the Ariel Atom being driven in temperatures of -36!! :flamethrow:

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basingwerk wrote:
in it’s current form, it’s a biased consumerist homage to car-ism


Thank goodness.. :D

At least political correctness has not infested this part of the BBC.

As far as cars are concerned my priorities are
1) Fun
2) style
3) performance
4) safety
5) reliability
6) practicality
7) economy

Emissions and residual value don't even get on the list.

Live now, pay later, as I say to my pension adviser.

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Basingwerk, I'm truly disappointed in this post of yours. Are you serious?


The smug curly haired sod is a stain on the TV screen.

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smirking grammar school
surely you can see this is irrelevant to the argument?


He's nothing more than a sarcastic sneer in a leather jacket. Having said that, whose arguing about anything?

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biased consumerist homage to car-ism


Is this illegal? Would you like car-ism to be illegal.


Christ, I can only dream of that! But surely no-one likes the toe-rag. Do they?


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What else should we ban because some individuals "disapprove"?


Anything that I pay for and don't like, basically.

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Check this out...http://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=61541&whichpage=1

Shot down in flames or what.... :lol:

It just goes to show, not everyone who rides a bike hates cars (and visa-versa I must add)

The guy got the response he deserved.

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But surely no-one likes the toe-rag. Do they?


He is opinionated, but that is no reason not to like him is it BW? :lol:

I used to read his articles in "Performance Car" magazine, and have always enjoyed his sense of humour and the fact that he challenges the anti-car/Green/PC lobby. I don't always agree with what he says but Top Gear, and tv, would be a lot duller without him.


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So do T2000 think that playing Gran Turismo 4 corrupting my fragile little mind too? (they might have a point)

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BBC schedules and replaced with a new programme promoting “sensible driving in sensible vehicles”.


I wonder what the viewing figures would be if they did. Probably less than the T2000 website daily hit rate.. :lol:

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while ignoring the interests of most women viewers

My wife loves the program. I also seem to remember that half the stars in the reasonably priced car are women.
There are a large proportion of women in the audience.


The re-vamped Top Gear is the first motoring show that my wife, (excellent driver, better attitude than me) really enjoys. So much of the show is about the engineering brilliance, aesthetics, identity and the soul of interesting cars. Should the hundreds of 'owners clubs' be banned too?


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In the news today. High power cars have fewer accidents...

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Ohio--April 11, 2005--Think faster cars are involved in more crashes? You're not alone. According to a recent phone survey of 1,000 people, one-third say that those who drive higher horsepower vehicles are involved in more frequent crashes.

Well, it's just not true according to The Progressive Group of Insurance Companies.
After studying more than 12 million private passenger cars it insured over the past three years, Progressive finds that cars with more than 200 horsepower are actually involved in an average of 17 percent fewer auto insurance claims than are those with less than 200 horsepower.

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So do T2000 think that playing Gran Turismo 4 corrupting my fragile little mind too? (they might have a point


How about Grand Theft Auto?

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Top Gear, and tv, would be a lot duller without him.


Yes, but a nice kind of dull!

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Sam Dentten wrote:
I wonder what the viewing figures would be if they did.


The BBC's reason for existence is to support informed citizenship with trusted and impartial news and information (about how to be an anti-social nitwit in a car). The BBC enriches and celebrates the UK's cultural life (by showing knobheads boasting to each other and zooming around as fast as they can in cars people can’t afford). The BBC offers learning opportunities to all (teaching impressionable young viewers how to be exploited by car culture and how to comply with consumerist norms). The BBC builds greater understanding, tolerance and social cohesion (by pushing car culture down everybody’s throats) and communicates UK values and culture worldwide (by showing that we can't make our own cars, and rely on the Germans nowadays).

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You may have thought this was beyond parody.

But apparently not:

http://www.jibblers.plus.com/t2000/news_tvshows.htm

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Strangeley enough , Mrs B is not a speed nut, BUT if i drive at 20 in a 20 limit, i get my ear bent "hearse about to pass till i tell her it is a 20 limit.
She like other wives likes top gear - and the cars - she likes me to put foot down , if i go too fast i get nagged - hence i've got a speed detector in car ( comes in about 100 mph m/way) she trusts my judgement on others as as she aint being thrown about or in her opinion ( abat 500,000 pasenger miles, she don't feel safe)I also trust her judgement on road junctions etc/ she might see talivan / cop before me - but if BBC think top gear is a "man only " thing, they have got to think again, mrs b is proof of that


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but if BBC think top gear is a "man only " thing, they have got to think again, mrs b is proof of that


They are certainly trying the shed that image with the new version of top gear (the one running for the last few years) - the audience must be 50\50 male\feamle (if 2 men and 1 woman turn up one of the men will be refused entry) and you still can not get a ticket.

(well I can't!)

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