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Ernest Marsh
 Post subject: Hoist by his own petard!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 21:30 
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http://www.thisissussex.co.uk/Speed-Watch-campaigner-caught-speeding-road/story-13334458-detail/story.html
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Speed Watch campaigner caught speeding in his own road
A COUNCILLOR who called for traffic-calming measures to be installed in his road has been caught speeding there himself.

Mid Sussex District Council's Edward Belsey has also taken part in a safety campaign which aimed to catch speeding motorists.

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CLOCKED: Mid Sussex District councillor Edward Belsey (far right) helping to launch an anti-speeding campaign in 2005
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But on July 22, the 68-year-old was snared by a speed gun when he was caught driving his BMW at 50mph in a 30mph zone in Holtye Road, East Grinstead.

It has long been one of the town's most problematic roads for speeding.
Back in 2001 Cllr Belsey called for action to be taken after three accidents there in as many days.

"We need traffic-calming measures," he said at the time. "It's the most innocuous piece of road that is a victim of human nature."

In 2005 he was also among a group of volunteers who helped launch the East Grinstead Speed Watch initiative, which aimed to tackle the town's speeding hotspots.
He even posed for a picture in East Court as volunteers were taught how to fire a speed gun at passing cars.

Cllr Belsey, whose wife Margaret is a district and town councillor, submitted a guilty plea in writing to Crawley Magistrates' Court over his speeding offence. And last Friday five penalty points were added to his driving licence.

He was also fined £400 and ordered to pay £85 court costs and a £15 victim surcharge.

The retired insurance broker moved to East Grinstead in 1995 to look after the finances of the family business.

He is a member of East Grinstead Meridian Rotary Club, a trustee governor of Queen Victoria Hospital and a district councillor for the East Grinstead Herontye ward.

As a volunteer for the Speed Watch campaign, he received training from East Grinstead police officers on how to use a speed gun.

The scheme's goal was to reduce the number of deaths and injuries on the roads.
It particularly aimed to increase public awareness of speeding and reduce the speed of vehicles in 30mph zones.

The Courier & Observer attempted to contact Cllr Belsey on Tuesday but was informed he was on a fishing trip and did not have a mobile phone with him.

This should be a sticky - and available to everyone who is contemplating calling for traffic calming measures where they would not be beneficial!

Any chance we could invite him here - when he gets back from his fishing trip? :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 22:17 
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This wasn't even a slip; his transgression was so great that he was summonsed :roll:

I would certainly like to know his thoughts on that matter.

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:rotfl:

What a hypocrite :twisted:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 00:08 
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So its only eveybody else that should stick to the 30 mph speed limit .... :?

Fishing trip? ..... probably trawling for a rock to crawl under!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 00:14 
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One rule for them...

Now that is one speeder I can honestly say I am glad got caught :lol:
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Having joined a police forum once, along with someone else I know :roll: , their mindset is still not one of him being a hypocrite, (which he is of course), but that he was just a bad apple which slipped through the net. Like your Med Hughes's etc.

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Yet another mollusc brained self righteous do as I say not as I do drone, wonder if he'll get a letter of sympathy from that other well known hypocrite drone Chief Constable Meredith Hughes? (beat me to that one Tone!) The tragedy is I doubt realisation of the error of their ways or the damage they do to real progress will ever dawn on either of their tiny intellects. :headbash:

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I always thought it was interesting when the released some years back offences that members of the force (poss just the met) were guilty of and thousands of them had been done for speeding. Presumably a lot of those were traffic.
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At 50 in a 30, I can only think he must have had a good reason to speed...!
Aslo, he was presumably copped by a REAL camera, and NOT a community speedwatch one, which just proves the value of having police on the ground, catching and stopping drivers who are a danger to others. :bluelight:

Take a look at the road on StreetView, and you will see what I mean! :drive1: :shock:

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Depends which part of it. There are sections that most cars travel along at around 35/40mph. That would be the 85th percentile. It ends up winding off into a country road. Excellent parts on a bike.
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I'd like to know what Nicholas Parsons is doing there and who gave that woman a black eye? :P

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:lol:

Speed watch volunteers are a notoriously volatile lot. They will sometimes fight to the death for who gets to hold the speed gun. Particualrly if there is a photo op. too.
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Big Tone wrote:
?who gave that woman a black eye? :P

Looks rather like the old boot polish/ink on the telescope eyepiece trick to me .... "hey quick take a look at this" :twisted:

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That photo looks like they've all been photoshopped in from separate pics to me.

Maybe the first time they tried it there was a punch up, and that's how the policewoman got a black eye.

Then Nicholas Parsons had to rush off to record Just a Minute so they had to PS it.
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