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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 02:33 
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Driving with a cold could seriously damage your licence
By Martyn Collins, Jan 6, 2012

It is that time of year when we're all feeling a bit under the weather, but new research could make those with a cold think twice before reaching for their car keys.

According to new findings by Halfords and insurance company Young Marmalade, driving with a blocked nose can be as bad as having four double whiskies, then getting behind the wheel.

Basically, they found that a cold can slow down a driver's reaction times and that sudden braking can become much more frequent, in the same way drink driving can.

To collect this data on driving behaviour, a 'black box' was fitted in the car that monitored speed, cornering and braking. The findings concluded that the quality of someone's driving drops by 50% when they have a cold.

Commenting on the survey, Nigel Lacy, Co Founder of Young Marmalade said: "This small-scale trial provides a warning for motorists; a heavy cold can impair a driver's mood, concentration and judgement."

Halfords Winter Driving Expert Mark Dolphin went on to add: "You shouldn't drive if you are not feeling well. The best place to be when you have flu or a heavy cold is at home, but if you really must go out, get someone else to take you and avoid driving."

If this evidence wasn't conclusive enough, the Police have warned that drivers getting behind the wheel while suffering from a heavy cold could be prosecuted. With many over the counter medications causing drowsiness that will hamper driving ability.

The Police warn, that if you are stopped and judged unfit to drive, then you've committed the same offence as someone who had driven on illegal drugs such as cocaine.
By what specific level of judgement will the police decide who is and isn't fit? How can they bring a prosecution based upon 'he didn't seem well'?
how many people will start to stop taking medication for fear of being considered unfit to drive because their system is possibly drugged (but perfectly 'safely') ?
To create additional paranoia is not good for road safety.
Obviously ensuring that people are safe to drive is good and proper for road safety, but it must be done with proportion and appropriate enforcement.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 21:07 
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how many people will start to stop taking medication for fear of being considered unfit to drive because theit system is possibly drugged (but perfectly 'safely') ?
To create additional paranoia is not good for road safety.
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Entire safety culture on Network Rail controlled space suffers from this . Blokes would come to work with colds/flue ,but the willingness to take a remedy /something to alleviate the symtoms was low due to the fear of a drugs test . Something else not widely known is that some of the seeds used on multi seeded bread cam show signs of drug misuse on drug screen tests . We used to get told of a tale of a Network Rail bloke who had to fight a case against suspension on misuse of drugs after eating some of this . So you can imagine the paranoi surrounding the taking of any form of medicine .So when roadside drugs screening ( if in this form ) comes to our roads - I shudder to think of the innocents caught out .

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 22:51 
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All these stories do is start making me think that maybe drink driving isn't all that dangerous after all!


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Yep I have heard about seeded / nutty bread that can show up on drug tests !
I agree that this whilst sounding positive on the surface the reality may prove to cause much undue stress, worry and even loss of jobs or lifestyle to innocent motorists.

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Seems perfectly sensible to me. If reaction times are lowered significantly you aren't fit to drive. If you have a cold then you aren't thinking straight and can often have coughing fits, sneezing fits etc which could have fatal consequences.

Seems to me a lot of people think the unfit to drive always applies to other people and their need to drive is more important. If you are impaired in any way you shouldn't drive! Tired, ill, headaches, upset, angry, drunk, drugged. The list goes on. Drivers need to take personal responsibility. They shouldn't need to be told not to drive under those circumstances.


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... If you are impaired in any way you shouldn't drive! Tired, ill, headaches, upset, angry, drunk, drugged. The list goes on. Drivers need to take personal responsibility. They shouldn't need to be told not to drive under those circumstances.
And I think that this is the crux of it ... we seem to be on a mission creep of prosecution over behaving responsibly and making proper judgements.
A cold by some peoples judgement is a sniff but by others is lying in bed feeling utterly rotten and even reading a book is too much, with driving out of the question.

I agree that if people are not behaving properly, then they need to be pulled over and reprimanded, and perhaps removed immediately (or another motorists located to help remove the vehicle) from the road, or whatever appropriate action is required.
If people fail to apply proper responsibility then what course of action is the best to resolve this issue ?

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If a word from plod and education doesn't work then prosecution is the only answer. Ultimately it could lead to a driving ban but it seems unlikely that someone would be caught with a cold enough times!


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So what about asthma that can look a lot like a cold or other nasal symptoms like a running nose?
Will this lead to 'blowing your nose while driving' becoming an 'offence' even if managed with only one hand ?

If we see more Police on the roads this will be much better and help to lead to safe roads. :)

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So what about asthma that can look a lot like a cold or other nasal symptoms like a running nose?
Will this lead to 'blowing your nose while driving' becoming an 'offence' even if managed with only one hand ?

If we see more Police on the roads this will be much better and help to lead to safe roads. :)

Reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago . Mrs had taken washing to mums to get it dried - as we had little outdoor space . Put in basket ,I'd made a graet deal of picking it up , and my back was nagging . Dad in law had loaned us his Relaint Robin -so off we trotted . At one set of lights ,after all the back bashing, my pain was at stage where I got van to lights, got handbrake on ,out of gear and passed out . Aparently I'd ht trottle when I pasedout ,so Mrs B was very worried .Then cme along knight in blue light armour - one of Teesides finest ( it wasn't called Cleveland in those days) -he was an ex rugby player and recognised the signs as a trapped nerve . Out of car with me ,into traffic car .He moved van into side street ,and ferried us home . Wouldn't happen today .But i was very thankful to a cop with a bit of common sense, and a desire to sort out a problem . And that was olde worlde british traffic policing .

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