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Well, looks like our one chance of a promised sensible policy on speed cameras etc.....( by the tories) has been kissed bye-bye. Watch Labour step up the pace on the war against the motorist now that they have a third term. They will do an awful lot of damage over the next 4-5 years. Come on people we really need to show Labour with more and bigger protests just how we all feel.

I think if you look back it was in 1982 under a conservative govt that the points system was introduced, which I believe is at the heart of the debate people have regarding speed cameras. And I didn't hear the conservatives say they would change this policy.

People often say that if it was only the fine they would be less opposed to cameras, and it is the totting up and the resulting ban that people hate.


JPF

People do, but it's a very misguided view. If it were "just a fine" there really would be a speed camera on every corner.

What we actually should push for is the exact opposite - get rid of the fine and punish bad driving solely by points. That way there would be no financial incentive to set up camera partnerships and the things would vanish practically overnight.

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Don't bank on it they got a mauling. They are clearly out ot tough with what people want, but there was no viable alternative. The got 1/3rd of the vote and less than half the population voted.

They will have to take stock of the situation. The economy is going down the pan. Unemployment is set to rise sharply.

They cannot afford a "winter of discontent".

The Lib Dems in my area canvased heavily on an Environment band wagon and got slaughtered, losing 5 councillors. The Lib Dem MP candidate for South Leicester promised to make everywhere more bike friendly and lost to Labour.

It remains to be seen what is going to happen next.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Before 1982 you would get endorsements on your driving licence, and IIRC you only needed 3 rather than 4 to be disqualified through totting-up.

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Yeah, you recall correctly Peter. I had two of the old suckers which were converted to 6 points in 1982. I then grabbed myself another 4, would have been banned under the old system

You need to look a bit further than the headline figures.

Yes, they have been re-elected with a majority they would have killed for at one time.

But there are a lot of Labour MPs who now know their position hangs by a thread, one more wrong step and they will have a much worse result next time round.

If you are in one of these areas it's time to write to your MP telling them why you didn't vote for them.

And if you look at the vote percentage, which I hope Mr Bliar will. He has the support of less than 25% of the electorate. i.e. less than 25% could be bothered to come out and vote Labour.

Given the overall turnout - as Wildy posted on PH earlier today - population - like last time - voted in the "none of these party"

It was a close call for me and I think Wildy wrestled a little. Think you can guess which way I evenutally voted and I think I guess which way my wife did. Tone's boy did not get a look-in anyway from this family.

From my professional point of view - am stuck with targets and recording system devised to skew in favour of government spin engineering. Applies to all of thus employed - even the JJs if they are brutally honest.

We have an economy which, as with Thatcher's golden era, is property led - and when bubble busts as it will do... we spiral to bust again. We have no manufacturing basis and even our service sectors have relocated to India where labour overheads are dirt cheap and services are of corresponding quality due to language barriers. As far as skills are concerned - some are equal and even better. But most are lower in real terms - particularly in relation to language barrier. I know what I've seen

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The things that anoy me now are the excuses for failure. Not only did they failed to grasp the things that the public realy care about prior to the election but after the kicking at the voting booths they have also failed to grasp the reasons for their failure

And they wonder why the public cannot connect to politics.

Perhapst they should LISTEN for once instead of just talking.

I had dialoge with a lical lib dem councillor on a couple of issues. He completly ignored my point of view basicaly saying I was wrong to think the way I do. I warned him of his mistake in not listening to the residents. Now he is no longer a councillor

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Well, the grinning imbecle has said he's REALLY going to address the issues people care about this time around.
Until his mate Unky George and his Yeeharr, Whoop Whoop, Lets kick some ass buddies come a calling for us to go out and play in another foreign excursion.

Guys, I am amazed, lots of talk as usual, but no one interested in really doing something about the whole issue of driver persecution. Sad to say 200 motorists protesting (M4) is hardly going to make anybody sit up and take notice(appreciated as it was by the rest of us).
Something really big needs to happen and soon.

Hi Gizmo

On a point of accuracy, the nationwide poll this time was 61% of all eligible voters. This was 2% up on the last election in 2001.

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