PeterE wrote:
A note of caution on the topic of retesting which has been extensively discussed in another thread.
We need to be very careful about proposing anything that, either due to expense or difficulty, would have the effect of significantly reducing the overall level of participation in driving. What matters is not what people in theory can do, but what in practice they actually do do.
Germany, Austria, Switzerland (France in process of tightening up) - more stringent testing has not reduced numbers of learners on their roads. Has to be said, though, that statistically - they have worse levels of RTAs than here - but then - according to reports in French newspapers - KSIs have been down to high alcohol levels (all that wine), non-wearing of seat belts, absolute colour-blindedness at traffic lights, zebras (BOF!) - speed coming lastly on their causation. Gather from report in "France-Soir" that they have increased gendarme and flic presence by 50% to crack down on these, and have installed 1000 fixed scams to back them up!
Austria, Switzerland? Mountains and ice! Drink! Seat belts! Vienna, Innsbruck, Basel, Zurich, Berne - all have severe drink/ drugs problems as well - per their newspaper reports. (But Wildy tends to get "le matin", and "Bild", and some other highly colourful rag sent to her!)
Germany - well they blame the Ossies, those Stasis who learned their "skills" in Trabis, and the dodgy roads there for their dodgier stats! Also seamier side of Hamburg, Berlin, Frankfurt... drugs, drink etc. Rhine/Ruhr - heavily congested - so more hazards and thus more crunches!
But even so - with our superb roads on aggregate - German style/standard testing would be good thing for UK!
PeterE wrote:
The lower the proportion of the population with driving licences, the easier it will be for the authorities to impose new restrictions on drivers. Currently the fact that a large majority of adults do drive is a major safeguard against excessively strict or unreasonable regulation. The idea that fewer, better-trained drivers would be given more freedoms flies in the face of experience. Look, for example, at what has happened to gun-owners. Driving, ultimately, enjoys some measure of protection from official restraint as it is perceived as a "democratic" activity.
Trouble is Peter - we have gov of car haters with too large a majority - casued probably by our own apathy - and we are too suspicious about their motives for the postal vote - this mob have been caught out in too many fibs and fiddles that we see postal vote as being "able to be manipulated"
Guns? Problems possibly due to poor and inadequate policing and licencing - also concentration on middle class crims in theri caars instead of Kray twin types!
Know what you mean though. Many who practise this as sport at Olympic standards have been hit with reams of paperwork for special licences. And those who collect and display only had to hand certain rare types over for destruction.
In Switzerland - you have to keep a weapon in the house by law. So majority owns gun. Has not led to mass shoot-outs - even in its seedier areas - but then race is generally disciplined per stereotype. (Protecting its gold from EU - according to WildCat!
) But then - all males are trained soldiers - all Wildy's brothers and male cousins were conscripted! The girls showed moral support by way of community service!) Even the tunnels are mined to prevent access to the gold vaults!