PeterE wrote:
Mad Moggie wrote:
cra wrote:
Personally, I'm happy to see all drink drivers jailed - say 4 weeks.
Firstly, my recommendation to all and sundry is not to even touch one drop.
Maybe, in an ideal world, but this advice is no more useful or accurate than "never exceed the speed limit by even 1 mph".
True - but in ideal world punishment all punishment would fit crime, and people would be self-disciplined, understand limits, metabolic rates
and effects of over-indulgence!
Reason why I suggest zero intake if driving - People have tendency to overindulge - one leads to two and then to four!
Wifey forgot to post in the medication thread this morning that reason why we recommend taking medication with food is so that digestive system can break down the nutrients and the medication and absorb it more quickly into blood stream.
Alcohol behaves differently. It should be taken with food as food mops up and sponges in the alcohol. Bio-chemical reaction takes place as digestive acids break this down, and most of the alcohol in molecular reaction with the food goes into in simplistic term - body's "waste disposal unit!" and not 100% into blood stream.
On empty stomach - or mixed with water - total alcohol consumed permeates stomach wall and enters bloodstream within first half-hour of consumption.
Young girls in particular seem to believe that white wine spritzer contains few calories, and in conjunction with starvation diets - they are in deepest doo-dah very quickly!
Also they do not know how much wine content is is spritzer so difficult to keep track of actual alhol consumed.
Same applies with alcopops!
Nun in example was copped in Manchester area 12 months ago.
She had consumed small amount of vintage champagne on empty stomach, was unused to alcohol and drank on empty stomach. Result - she ended up losing licence for 12 months and was allegedly totally mesmerised by the experience.
PeterE wrote:
The Borkenstein study has shown that there is no impairment of driving abilities at blood-alcohol levels below 50 mg (and no significant impairment below 80 mpg), and for the vast majority of drivers, 3 units of alcohol will not take them above 50 mpg.
Indeed, it is not so long ago that official road safety information stated that consuming up to 3 units of alcohol before driving, while maybe not ideal, was still acceptable. This remains true - it is public attitudes that have changed.
But again - overindulgence and lack of knowledge can cause problems. Safer to ensure one memebr of group keeps strictly within limit or take taxi!
Also metabolic rates are different.
Limit is global - based on norm - but there can be exceptions to norm - and unless, you definitely know to contrary, you may be that exception!
Even with very low consumption eye movements slow down just slightly and this can lead to delayed hazard perception. Also alcohol has individual affects on brain and attitude. Can lead to over-confidence on very little consumption for some and depression for others. Again - speed of effect does depend on food intake, medications, metabolism, individual's weight, health and normal mentality.
PeterE wrote:
The dishonest claim that "even one drink is dangerous" seriously undermines an honest road safety message.
One drink can be very dangerous if you are taking some form of medication - such as antihistamine!
People do overindulge - one drink leads to two and four. Before they have realised it - they are well over the limit! Best to take taxi then you can have a really good time with no worries!
Same with sunny days in UK. Sit for hours in the strongest sunshine - no protections despite loads of adverts on the telly!
All the more reason for basic education regarding alcohol consumption, your own body and consequences of overindulgence.
Now - Golf awaits, and the wifey will, quite naturally, pick me up in slightly merry state, win or lose, again from the 19th hole!
Cheers
The Mad Doc