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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 13:09 
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Mark Freeman from Doncaster was at triffic lights on red when he saw an ambulance approaching from behind with Blues and Twos. Being a considerate driver he moved forward to give the Ambulance a clear route through, and was snapped by the red-light camera.


A curmudgeon would say that he might not have needed to run the lights to get out of the way if he had been driving a normal vehicle, instead of an oil tanker on wheels like the Chrysler Voyager. It’s another downside of driving a jumbo car.


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The law is a fucking joke!

I think I'm going to take up mugging. The robocop department in Doncaster is nothing more than a bunch of thieving bastards

This country is run by politically correct fucking numpties. Get a grip or what?

Keep it up, scum partners - this just reminds me of the front page of the sun that dim and distant election day "If labour win the election, will the last person to leave the country please switch the light off as they leave"


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D'ya think there's enuf of us yet to charter a liner PaulF?

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greengoblin wrote:
I truly believe basingwerk would try to start an argument in an empty room. :lol:


I know, but I've got a captive audience! Back on topic, this really is a crazy story about a bloke who drives around in an oil tanker of a car that blocks the road so the emergency services can't get through! When, out of guilt, he tries to move his whale-of-a-car out of the way, he gets a ticket from the traffic lights, for God's sake!! I admit I'd be hoping mad if it happened to me. But, adding insult to injury, the mug takes days off work (in a fit of picque, no doubt) to fight the fine, and ends up 10 times worse off!

You couldn't make it up. He should take it to Hollywood - it could be the basis for a very funny movie!

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basingwerk wrote:
Back on topic, this really is a crazy story about a bloke who drives around in an oil tanker of a car that blocks the road so the emergency services can't get through!


It isn't significantly bigger. Certainly not the width of an ambulance bigger.


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This case is more proof (as if we needed it) that the Magistrates' only agenda is to put people off taking minor driving offences to court so that they just blindly accept the fixed penalty every time (and advise their friends to do the same), increasing the profitability of the system.

I'm so glad I read this forum. Next time I am the first in line at traffic lights and see an Ambulance coming up behnd me I'll be sure to stay put. Sorry in advance to the poor (possibly dying) person in the ambulance but 3 more points and I lose my job...

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I wonder when the tragic news of somebody dying as a result of an ambulance being unable to reach in time will apear thanks to them being stuck at a set of traffic lights? Perhaps that may shake the people responsible for this pathetic conviction into doing something about it. But it will be too late for the person who's died, and those who brought this conviction will have his or her death on their conscious. I hope they are happy with themselves.


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Capri2.8i wrote:
I wonder when the tragic news of somebody dying as a result of an ambulance being unable to reach in time will apear thanks to them being stuck at a set of traffic lights? Perhaps that may shake the people responsible for this pathetic conviction into doing something about it. But it will be too late for the person who's died, and those who brought this conviction will have his or her death on their conscious. I hope they are happy with themselves.


Unfortunately ambulances arrive too late every minute of every day. We'll never be able to pin one on this.

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I truly believe basingwerk would try to start an argument in an empty room. :lol:

He'd probably lose it too.. :-)

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basingwerk wrote:
Back on topic, this really is a crazy story about a bloke who drives around in an oil tanker of a car that blocks the road so the emergency services can't get through! When, out of guilt, he tries to move his whale-of-a-car out of the way, he gets a ticket from the traffic lights, for God's sake!! I admit I'd be hoping mad if it happened to me.


FYFI, the Land rover he was driving is no wider, and is shorter, than your average BMW-like medium saloon car - so takes up less road space.

You don't half make assumptions at times.

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But, adding insult to injury, the mug takes days off work (in a fit of picque, no doubt) to fight the fine, and ends up 10 times worse off!


I suppose you would have just taken it meekly - after all, it was one of your beloved automatic law enforcers at work.

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I truly believe basingwerk would try to start an argument in an empty room. :lol:

He'd probably lose it too.. :-)


:rotfl: :clap1: :rotfl: :clap1:

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The message that this episode is sending out loud and clear is that it's better to endanger lives than to commit a minor technical infringement.

And that stinks.

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I actually think it's time for us to "Work to rule".

Waiting at red lights?

When they have actually gone green, then and only then, check your mirrors, put the car in gear, release the handbrake and accelerate gently. No more than 10 in 1st, 15 in 2nd, 23 in 3rd before changing up to 'cruise' at 26 in 4th.

They want slow???

Come on then, chaps and chappettes, let's give them SLOW.

Under NO circumstances do you yield to an emergency vehicle - just slow down and get slower and slower - but not slow enough to let them pull out in front of you.

They want "LAW"???

Fucking idiots! Let's give them "LAW"! Where does it say IN STATUTE "You must yield to an emergency vehicle"?

It's about time we started playing these fucking idiots at their own games.

IN the USA, when blacks weren't allowed to get on the bus and sit in place of the whites, their protest was to all walk to work.

Time, I think, we started looking at this in order to do the same.


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Oh - and don't forget, when the inevitable collisions start because the law are tailgating you (when they are in a rush, after all) and do something they shouldn't, don't forget to say as you alight from your car....

"Sorry officer, but I wasn't speeding. Accidents aren't supposed to happen when no-one speeds".


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basingwerk wrote:
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I truly believe basingwerk would try to start an argument in an empty room. :lol:


I know, but I've got a captive audience! Back on topic, this really is a crazy story about a bloke who drives around in an oil tanker of a car that blocks the road so the emergency services can't get through! When, out of guilt, he tries to move his whale-of-a-car out of the way, he gets a ticket from the traffic lights, for God's sake!!


Oh do have a word with yourself BW. If circumstances conspire against us anyone, even someone driving a titchy, teeny Smart Car, could find themselves blocking the route of an emergency vehicle. Unless we all drive around in laminar 2 dimensional vehicles this will happen from time to time.
You are a bit of a misanthrope at times old chap.


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I seem to be in the minority here, but I believe that you must always abide by the law unless you are prepared to accept the consequences. If the powers that be wanted you to go through red lights to make way for emergency vehicles, they'd write that provision into the law, but they haven't written in such a provision, so don't do it!

You should never break a law, risking prosecution, out of some misguided sense of higher purpose. It isn't our job to make that judgement, it's the job of our legislators.


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Stevei - how about a little common sense, eh? Not every situation in the land can be written down in law for the hard of thinking. Sometimes people have to think for themselves and a little bit of discrection is called for. But even if on reflection someone commited a minor infiringment of the law(be it motoring or otherwise) then you should really think whether its in the public's interest to prosecute. Maybe(but probably not in my opinion) this guy did the wrong thing, but he did it for the right reasons. He did not seek to gain an advantage or put peoples lives at risk.


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Oh do have a word with yourself BW. If circumstances conspire against us anyone, even someone driving a titchy, teeny Smart Car, could find themselves blocking the route of an emergency vehicle. Unless we all drive around in laminar 2 dimensional vehicles this will happen from time to time. You are a bit of a misanthrope at times old chap.


I know ... as John Lennon said "I'm just a jealous Guy, oh my". I even mentioned that I wouldn't like it myself. It's all talk though. I'd be petrified if one the Agnry Mne appeared on my doorstep!

On the other hand ... you have to see the funny side. It can be an absolute bugger when we find ourselves in trouble for something we never did. We all know what that feels like from our childhood.

Injustice definitely happens. But the system is there because it is better for a few unfortunate mugs to get pinged than for the rest of us to be "amber-gamblers", to use the old phrase for this. And if you let this fellow off, we'd all use the same excuse, and we'd all be at it, wouldn't we?

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pogo wrote:
greengoblin wrote:
I truly believe basingwerk would try to start an argument in an empty room. :lol:

He'd probably lose it too.. :-)


I can see where this is leading...

BW wrote:
Oh no I wouldn't!

Pogo wrote:
Oh yes you would!

BW wrote:
Oh no I wouldn't!

Pogo wrote:
Oh yes you would!

BW wrote:
Look, this isn't an argument.

Pogo wrote:
Yes it is.

BW wrote:
No it isn't, it's just contradiction.

Pogo wrote:
No it isn't.

BW wrote:
Yes it is.

Pogo wrote:
It is not.

BW wrote:
It is. You just contradicted me.

Pogo wrote:
No I didn't.


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