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Really? Our philosophy? What speed is that then? Exactly?

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What a load of tosh. If your speed is different (faster or slower) then you're somewhere else with an equal chance of another random event striking. And if you are slower, reaction time mistakes have less impact whatever the distance to the event.

We all know that decisions made in haste have more risk than decisions made with due deliberation, and speed gives you less time to think. Face it, Pete317, you’re stuffed!

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I dont concur matey.

You may not see an event if youre travelling at a slower speed simply due to your concentration not being focussed on the task ahead. You may well not see it at all! Seems to be backed up with the facts ass well....the facts that most crashes occur entirely within the speed limits!

Contrast that with a driver focussed on the task, senses fully active and youve got someone who will most definitely see an event occuring up ahead, able to react to it, for the simple reason that thats where his attention currently is.

wow...i didnt even need a computer model to figure that one out...

You have been here a long time, and yet you apparently still continue to fail in comprehension of the, for want of a better term, 'Safe Speed Message' - perhaps the epithet 'bonehead' could find a better locus of application?

Well done for coming forward, Einion Yrth! At last, one of you has the guts to admit he is a bonehead!

Now, I've only got another hundred or so other users, and I'm through!

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Look back in your files and you will find that you said words to that effect. Do you now deny that very high, excessive speeds are dangerous?

If so, please ensure you stress that at your forthcoming RoSPA meeting, won't you?

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Why don't you just answer the question?

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Paul Smith
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You really are a pointless little irritant aren't you?

Oh and I consider myself duly warned for the ad hominem also Paul, sorry.

No … these people think driving slowly is more dangerous than breaking the limit, so (if you believe such tosh) you need to be more concentrated when you are going slower!



Yeah – but most accidents happen to sober people, so should you get drunk before you go out in the car?

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Fill your boots, mochyn budr!

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You first - do you now deny that very high, excessive speeds are very dangerous in all circumstances?

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Filthy pig? Well I could probably do with a shower, but I am definitely human, you could ask any of my friends.

Of course it is dangerous to drive 'too fast' and very dangerous to drive 'far too fast'.

Now perhaps you will illumiate us with your carefully considered definitions of 'too fast' and 'much too fast'? And after your earlier statement I expect numbers.

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Most accidents happen to sober people, but most drivers are sober. A comparison of the rate of drunkenness in drivers in accidents and the rate of drunkenness in all drivers will show that drunkenness increases risk. With speeding, on the other hand, the opposite is true, in that most drivers speed, e.g. I have pasted a link to a pdf a few times that shows 70% of drivers speeding along a particular stretch of road near here, yet only a small minority of accidents involve speeding drivers - how can that be if speeding is dangerous in itself?

I know. SafeSpeed has told me that jokes are allowed, so I try to avoid rudimentary ad-hominem stuff. I have to insult you in a 'funny' sort of welsh way. I hope you don’t mind too much. Have you ever been to Blaenau ffestiniog?

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I can live with it, can you? - nawr dos i chwarae gyda'r traffig,twpsyn.
Oh and yes I have been to blaenau ffestiniog, why do you ask?

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Ah right.

So 60mph on the twisty single track roads around here isn't 'too fast'?

And 29.5mph past a school in a narrow village high street at 8:45am with kids spilling off the pavement isn't too fast?

And worse (because we still have rural schools on country roads with no pavement in NSL 60mph zones near here) it's not 'too fast' to pass crowds of school kids walking in the road at 59.9mph?

I'm sorry mate but your defintions are a deadly joke. Care to try again?

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
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I'm more comfortable with Germen: Sie werden nicht gepaßt, um meinen Toilettesitz zu lecken!

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If you start to impinge upon the reasonable margins that the system and other road users give you, to the point where eventually a crash becomes inevitable, that is MUCH too fast. Do you feel silly now?



Again, you are claiming that I said something I didn’t. If you start to impinge upon the reasonable margins that the system and other road users give you, to the point where eventually a crash becomes inevitable, that is MUCH too fast. Do you feel even sillier now?



Again, you are claiming that I said something I didn’t. If you start to impinge upon the reasonable margins that the system and other road users give you, to the point where eventually a crash becomes inevitable, that is MUCH too fast. Do must be feeling like a chump, SafeSpeed. Bloody amateur. Go back, and have another go!!!

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