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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 06:43 
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Claim you are training for the olympics!

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OLYMPIC swimmer Karen Pickering has narrowly escaped a driving ban after being caught doing 100mph on the A14.

Pickering, 33, who represented Britain in the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens and is the most decorated female swimmer, was warned she came close to losing her licence.

But she was told that her need to attend sporting activities and her role in preparation for the 2012 Olympic Games in London had led magistrates to agree not to take away her licence.

Magistrates in Ely heard that Pickering, who was awarded the MBE in June 1994, was driving back from a swimming race in Coventry when she was caught by a speed camera travelling at 100mph in a 70mph limit on the A14 at Ellington, in Cambridgeshire, just after noon on Sunday, May 1.

She had been taking part in a freestyle race in the Midland District Championships for her Ipswich-based club.

Pickering, of Anglesea Road, Ipswich, who admitted speeding, was returning to support Ipswich Town Football Club at a lunch followed by a game for the Youth Football Training Academy.

The court heard that she would normally set the cruise control to 70mph on her BMW Mini Cooper, which was supplied by a sponsor. But on this occasion she had not and, although she knew her speed was a little over the limit, she did not think it was so high.

Magistrates were told that Pickering, who also competed in the Olympics in 1992, 1996 and 2000, drove up to 16,000 miles a year for her swimming and sponsorship work.

Mitigating Brinley Jones said: “She has never been in any trouble before but is in a spot of bother for this. I would ask you to take into account the services she has given to her country and that should balance things at this stage.”

He added that as Director of the British Olympic Society, Chairman of the British Athletics Association, a member of the Eastern Region Sports Committee and Sport Ambassador for Ipswich she has a packed diary of events over the next few weeks.

She is due to attend a Sport England event and a British Olympic meeting in London, chair the Athletes Annual Conference in Cardiff and attend a meeting in Glasgow.

“She needs her car to get around to sports clubs within a 10 mile radius of Ipswich where public transport is not very good,” Mr Jones told the court.

“For the services this lady has given to this country and the need for her licence over the next couple of months or so, I would ask you not to disqualify her on this occasion.

“She starts her swimming training at 6am every morning and lives one and a half miles from where she trains. It is not good for a woman to be walking through darkened streets with no public transport available.”

The court was told that since retiring from national swimming, Pickering had lost her sponsorship income and now expected to earn up to £2,000 a month.

She said: “My work is self-employed and my income is sporadic. The work I do for Ipswich council as an ambassador in sport and for Sport England is part-time. My appearances and some of my talks are paid.”

Chairman of the Magistrates, Alan Williams, told her: “You have a very outstanding record in terms of representing the country, nevertheless that does not excuse the excessive speed you were travelling on the A14. I really must remind you that the A14 is an exceedingly dangerous road.

“You came within a very short margin of being disqualified. But taking into account the fact that you take part in a lot of activities and the fact that we are moving towards preparation for the Olympic Games in 2012, which will involve a lot of travelling, we are not going to disqualify you.

She was fined £250 with £35 costs and five points were endorsed on her licence.


The A14 must be a real cash cow. I have had a few close shaves there where the car in front has hit the brakes when the saw a camera. I am sure they are making it more dangerous.

If you are not an athlete this is what you get....
100mph driver loses licence for four months

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But what I want to know is why don't they give people in this situation a community service punishment that would take up as much of their time as the average person would lose from a driving ban? If the hardship of the ban would be excessive, why should that reduce the punishment to zero, surely the person should still receive whatever is considered an acceptable level of hardship to impose on someone?


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Claim you are training for the olympics!

:? Thought she'd retired from competitive swimming. Certainly can't see her competing in 2012. I'd have thought these Olympics 'preparations' would be all promo and organisational stuff (not that the car wouldn't still be useful). Perhaps the magistrates were in a good mood that day, or were sports fans and got an autograph :) . Or perhaps a ton up wasn't inherently dangerous for the circumstances. Maybe all of the above.
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100mph driver loses licence for four months

Another one who works in a hospital. :roll: [sarcasm]Don't these people who work for the NHS realise that they give so little value to society compared to, say, sports people and politicians that they really can't expect any mercy from the courts over this sort of thing?[/sarcasm]

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Must pay my gym membership straight away......

So now we know - Lord Coe is immune from prosecution for traffic offences. :wink:

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stevei wrote:
But what I want to know is why don't they give people in this situation a community service punishment that would take up as much of their time as the average person would lose from a driving ban? If the hardship of the ban would be excessive, why should that reduce the punishment to zero, surely the person should still receive whatever is considered an acceptable level of hardship to impose on someone?


I like that idea.
That way, we get to kleep our jobs, and the gov't still get potential roadside tax from us as we continue to drive safely.
I'm sure by taxing us off the roads they are diong themselves out of revenue.


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Quite a few of the magistraites have a grip on reality. If you turn up smart talk to them respectfully there is a chance of finding the human side.

When I have been to court with pepipoo members they have allways turned up in a good shirt and tie, usually a suit and we have looked much better than almost all of the other defendants and argued a good case and got respect back.

They usualy coment on how well the case has been presented. Yesterday we were praised for not losing our temper with the prosicution who turned up unprepared and with half a bundle of paper.

Presenting a good case as to how you help the community is the best way to avoid a ban. personal hardship dosen't count for much.

I think she demonstraited this in her mitigation plea. If she had been given community service she would have had to cut the hours she was contributing to the community already.


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Surely I'm contributing to the community by paying lots of income tax that wont get paid if I lose my job.

However, I'm glad she got off, it shows the sort of common sense that should also be extended to the wider tax paying public at large.

The A14 round Cambridgeshire is a cash cow, and is considered a very dangerous road thanks to the cameras.


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doing the southend 10k in a couple of weeks, does that count? :D


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