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Is double parking while delivering or picking up just an inconvenience, and occassional hazard, or is it a heinious crime?

This vehicle is double parked at the same place Monday to Friday, forcing vehicles out wide, on a bend where the view ahead is restricted by the manner in which the road dips away, as well as the curvature.
A school entrance/exit is situated on the right, at the exit of the bend, and opposite is a busy junction on the left, which has a filter lane for traffic joining this road - the A591 as it skirts Windermere.
Traffic joining the A591 via the filter lane, looks for oncoming vehicles IN IT'S regular lane, when in fact it exits the bend wide, having been forced out by this van.
I myself was struck from behind when I paused for such a vehicle, which had been unseen by the car behind, and so he had anticipated my exit and driven forward, while watching over his shoulder!!
I have also seen two similar collisions as I have passed the junction (which I now avoid because of the congestion there).
Last week I saw a Trafpol in the layby opposite my camera viewpoint, lecturing another motorist, and felt sure during his time, he must witness the hazard - but if he did, it was to no effect.

The van is rarely loading, yet occupies the space for at least 15 minutes that I know of, as I pass to and from my destination. Only a regular Trafpol would recognise the regular and extended nature of the event, but their attentions seem either to be focussed elsewhere, or their numbers spread thinly enough to make any encounter a chance one!

Is he committing an offence, or merely an inconvenience, and are cameras REALLY diluting Trafpol numbers? I seem to see more and more minor infringements going unpunished, yet once the Parking Wardens arrive at 9.00 am, bona fide traders unloading and loading in Windermere itself are getting tickets!!!

The world has gone MAD!

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If it is absolutely essential to do so, then it's excusable in my opinion. By absolutely essential, I don't mean to pick up a paper, but rather like the Securicor van I saw double parked the other day - I understand the fact they don't want to be carrying thousands of pounds hundreds of yards on foot because they can't find a parking space.

Anything else other then emergancy services should be clamped down on as at the very least it's usually an inconvienence, but at worst can be a serious hazard.

However, some people are just too damn important to have to find a parking space, just like the Volvo estate that was parked right outside ASDA yesterday on double yellows forcing everyone to edge out round him very slowly because they couldn't see properly when pulling out of the car park. It was very selfish considering their was plently of spaces just a few yards from the entrance - but no, they weren't close enough!

I have a similar problem EVERY WEDNESDAY (sorry about the over use of capitals...) with a pair of bin lorries which don't see the need to pull over to one side of the road or the other when they stop, meaning I just have to sit behind them as they work their way through an entire village.

Like double parking, it is just thoughtless and selfish.

I have also seen this when down in Windermere on occasions. Ist a nuisance. Und I also avoid this area if down there now as ist too congested - especially in the high season.... But I visit that nice kitchen shop down there for a browse und because am partial to some chocolate und old fashioned sweeties they sell there Und some odd enjoyment out of seeing people look at some strange kitchen gadget und you can tell no one knows what is does!




Ist always the way



und they are spread too thinly. Ist all this silly red tape too!



Less traffic police since scameras appear...und the redeployment seem to be sedentary keyboard tapping...Und Traffic Wardens - sub-crontracted cowboy companies who get commission on tickets dished out... they even finded Flopsy the Bunny eating her carrots in hutch displayed outside the petshop. It won the 2004 award for silliest parking fine with close runner up the bus driver given ticket at bus stop whilst passengers were boarding the bus...

Ist all about who they can get to pay up with leastest grumbles - but Flopsy thumped her hind legs on it. und winkled her nose at them. After asking "What's Up Doc!" und a "Sheesh" - she refused to hand over her carrots. in fines und the magistrate eventually agreed....

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is it meters, yellow lines or resident parking zones in that area? if so this is precisley what i've been harping on about in other topics- fact is, the driver knows that a dangerously parked van thats within his eyesight won't get a ticket, as opposed to parking further away to be sensible and courteuos. in fact can "parking attendants" evan issue a ticket for double parking or is it trafpol only that can do so?

Therefore the profiteering parking enforcement by totalitarianism encourages drivers to make dangerous decisions when parking to avoid fines.

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as far as i know parking attendants can only issue tickets for decrimanalised offences, depends on the force

double parking IMO is unecessary obstruction and falls into the the remit of the police, police traffic wardens and PCSO's

thats what I thought.

and as there's far, far more parking attendants than wardens or intrested police what choice is mr driver gonna make?

ridiculous state of affairs.

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Remember reading something about trying to make double parking an offence /tickatable --- was the distance from the pavement that counted - something like 18 in , was waiting to see some blonde drivers done single parking.

correct me if i'm wrong but going back to my TW days,

the yellow line offence goes from the building line to the markings in the centre of the road, so if a car was parked on a footpath parrallel to say DYL then a FPT for no waiting would be issued (with a foot note fully on public footpath), if however no yellow lines then unecessary obstruction of a public footpath is the offence

the was an issue a couple of years ago about as botach states vehicles being booked for parking to far away from the kerb, how far it has gone in real life i dont know

CO-havent seen any more on it - what caught my eye was the distance - joy of joys - blonde bimbos( and blonde mr bimbo with germanic car) badly parked would now get ticket

il augh at the 18 inches you mention with the blonde, i can exagerate 6 inches to 8 but never 18

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Now CO SAID ALSO "correct me if i'm wrong but going back to my TW days"


CO - "il augh" - A subtle version of "move off or your'e booked" perhaps, in some unknown TW dialect , like as heard in utter spice

I think double-space parking should also be made illegal.

How about making it illegal to park:-

In bus stops
In people's drives
On footpaths, at the side of the road and over dual carriageways/motorways

It's legal to park in people's drives with the owner's permission. But unless there's a sign saying that unauthorised vehicles may be immobilized or removed, you can't do anything if someone parks their car on your property.

EP - think on - who loves to park in these sort of places??

He drives a van , loves to send people unsolicited pictures of their vehicles for an exorbitant sum, and when not in these places can also be seen behind trees. In fact the only hiding place he hasn't been seen in is up a tree( hasn't worked out how to get the van down yet)

I seem to recall HOOVER had one of their service vans held to ransom a while back, over the free flights competition fiasco!!
An irate customer blocked in the van on his driveway, and refused (legally) to allow it to leave!!

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After over a year of passing the double parked vehicle which illustrated this thread, this week, all the vans have been respectfully parked.... on one occasion this week one was even parked some distance from the premises they serve!!

I wonder if the drivers have been reading here, or if at long last, they have received word that their activities are a nuisance?

Now all that needs doing is a repeat in Bowness, where each morning a Landrover parks on double yellow lines in front of the same premises while delivering milk, and stays for breakfast, causing an obstruction as articulated lorries deliver to the Co-op on the opposite side of the road!!

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