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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 09:51 
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Anyone read the letter from a serving Thames Valley police officer Geoff Melling, on people's attitudes to scameras, that says:- 'On average, 3500 people are killed or seriously injured on our nation's roads every year. Many of these victims lose their lives, or quality of life, because of speeding.'?


Thought it was about 7%? :?


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Yeah, saw it too and was going to comment if you hadn't.
This chap makes no distinction between driving at 36mph in a 30 limit on Sunday morning with nothing else around (and getting pinged for it), and reckless speeding. Its the former, enforcement with no itelligence or discretion, thats pissing people off.
He tries to insinuate that pillars of the community (doctors, lawyers etc etc) are dangerous drivers because they may break the speed limit :roll:
I'll scan the paper later and post the letter in full, unless anyone does it before I get home. Theres another letter from the husband of a woman pinged at 35 in a 30, the two make interesting reading together.


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ONCE AGAIN, "Inappropriate speed" and "excess of the prevailing speed limit" are being purposely confused and touted to mean the same thing.

This is the fundamental misunderstanding that most of the public support for cameras depends on.

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On average, 3500 people are killed or seriously injured on our nation's roads every year.


:?

How can they expect people to believe what they say when they can't even get the fundamentals right?

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When this bloke "accumulated his 9 points for speeding many years ago" - he was genuinely copped pushing the envelope and had not dirven past a speed camera at 34/35 mph per the chap's wife in the other letter in this paper. (Guy says his wife is losing sleep over it)

I did not note any speed camera copping the dangerous drivers this evening - who were at the speed limit but wa-y-y-y-y- too fast for the foggy conditions :roll:

No speed camera will catch those who are driving around despite suffering from sleep apnoea which does claim a lot of lives on our roads. It's a sleep disorder and unfortunately whether you get tested or treated depends on your NHS lottery post code. :banghead: (Just another Drone on the part of Tone - NHS is not safe in his hands - and I know the shortcomings only too well :banghead: )


This family, of course, is more than aware that speed cameras do not cop defective vehicles or persons who are not fit to drive but who manage to pass a camera at the riight speed :banghead: So before this bloke praises them - how about this story which appeared in the Manchester paper and a local advertiser rag in my kid sister's patch.

Woman was killed when she was run over by an accelerating HGV on East Lancs Road in Manchester area - "Critchley's Corner" as known locally.

This junction has a red light camera and she was hit as the lights changed and the HGV driver engaged grear and set off. Naturally - he gets the blame - but she must have set off across the road after the lights had changed. Of course, red light camera was very instrumental - NOT! in saving her life!

Thus - road safety does not and never should depend on a speed camera - but on a comprehensive and contunual eduication on basic road safey reminders for all road users - with emphais being on responsible behaviour by ALL on the roadways! :roll:

Or what about the child who was killed playing chicken on the M61 j almost 2 years ago? Or the one killed after consuming a bottle of vodka and running into the road? Or the girl killed after watching the drunk and drug influenced wannabe disck jockey "show off" after dropping her off after a party at his house. He was in his early 30s - she and her mate were 12 years old. I draw my own conclusions from this! :roll: and her parents have been asked to remove the shrine at the graveside and the roadside as it's a bit OTT apparently - per the papers and the local vicar as quoted in the paper.

My view? If she'd been one of my kids - she would not have been attending any party at some grown bloke's house! :roll: Nor would she have been out at that time of night either! :roll:

AM a strict Papa really! :wink:

Yup - you can tell - had a bad day! Grrrrrrr!!!

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Another quality line in the "Daily Mail" (Yeah -OK - WAIL :hissyfit:)

But Peter Mackay makes some interesitng ponts in his essay over the Bradford GiB tragedy :cry: (my heart felt thoughts and sympathies to those families and their colleages)

OK - so the nub of his article questions why there are more rookies than experienced cops and a politically correct selection procedure. His article tactfully does not criticise the brave officers in question - but rather the management of their deployment.

Mackay's essay makes one interesting point in his rant though which is very relevant to this thread:

Mackay on subject of recruitment and rookie management policies wrote:

Might it not be because the modern police "service" and not "force" discourages applications to join its ranks from young men and women who seek - in the old parlance ( and in IG's young days - to become expert "thief takers" and focuses instead on those who can assimilate a bureaucratic, ervery form-in triplicate- culture ,in which - certainly in regard to motorists - they are guided by the principle "If you can;t catch criminals - catch people whom you can criminalise


I thought it worth quoting in relation to the letter in the Express! :wink:

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