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This defies belief - I had to check it wasn't April 1st!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4459056.stm

What kind of message are they trying to promote, especially to kids? "The road is as safe a place to be as your bedroom"?? Twatsport 2000 seem to think it's wonderful and say that "kids should be protected from traffic" - wouldn't it be more sensible to ensure, by teaching them road sense, that it's better to "protect traffic from children"?

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No it's a road, you have a house to live in.



Well yes, thats because it is a road, and not the living room of a house.

If you wish to place your living room on a road, can I then drive my car through your house?


(i would of drove at him )
That is what roads are for? if they where to live in they would be a house. If people where ment to walk along them, they would be thiner and called a path.



Yes thats because you were blocking a ROAD!



I shall now drive on the pavment and in shopping centres.



Does he not see how up his own arse he sounds. It no suprise he Pi$%ed off a few motorists, roads are spaces for cars. Yet some people seem to belive cars have no right to be there it winds me up

If i drive on the path I am nutter or a meance. However he sticks his sofa on the road and people don't see problem with it Wan$%ers.

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No there aren't! Not legal ways, at any rate. Obstructing the highway is an offence.

Today was Toontown2000s day of action. Funny If it wasn't for your post I would not have noticed...

It did not get a mention in our local rag.

from their web site....

I didn't know she was a leading authority on road safety. I remember her getting her kit off in the film walkabout and Logans Run. I wonder why they didn't mention them.

here are a few pics she would probably like to forget about....
http://www.mujweb.cz/www/jennagut/jennagut.htm

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Muppets all of them.
Perhaps if pedestrians had to obey the laws that they presently are only recommended they should obey, then the roads would be a lot safer.

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Would you let your kids play in his bedroom...


Nope...I thought not. so keep of the roads.

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Isn't he facing execution somewhere in the far east for kiddy fiddling?

I dunno about you guys, but I'd feel quite happy sticking to 20mph in residential areas (i do most of the time anyway because generally where I live its not safe to do 30mph) if they relaxed the NSL and motorway speed limits and let us drive at a speed that we felt was safe. It has to be give and take on both sides. Putting sofas in the street is just plain stupid, and I doubt that they gave consideration to the traction problems arrising from driving over carpet?! Do you think they realised that the chances are their actions actaully made the roads MORE dangerous?

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They're just putting out entirely the wrong message. There's that silly woman bleating on about how her kids are terrified to walk along the pavement because of cars travelling at lethal speeds... Well,I've got a message for you Mrs.. Almost any speed can be "lethal" if car and pedestrian come into contact - better to do your best that contact doesn't occur in the first place - and teaching your kids a little about road sense could, just possibly, be a good place to start.

Kids don't get run over on the pavement - they get run over wandering about in the road... These clowns trying to teach kids that roads are "soft squidgy, fluffy bunny-rabbit places" are totally barking. (This is starting to sound like it should be in "The Soapbox"!). When I was a kid I was taught how to cross the road safely, that cars etc were hard and hurt if they hit you so it was better if they used the roads and I used the footpaths - quite a simple concept really, though it appears to be completely alien to modern lentillistas.

Just out of interest, anybody any idea how many (if any) kids have been run down and killed/injured by a vehicle mounting the pavement?

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a whole lot more than by cyclists on pavements...


edit:

one document
but I don't think it breaks it down enough.

I got stuck into 'sport2000's press dept. the other day for my personal amusement. re: the 'Agutter initiative' (better known for taking off more than petticoats! Perhaps she should flash at passing motorists?) and kids not walking more than 20mins (well, are the fat little sods prompted into being 'frightened' of killer cars or just too lazy?, are they not the ones IN the killer cars getting carted about? Talk about having statistical cake & eating it too!), residential KSI reductions, playing in the roads & such like (well how about a near 100% reduction - green cross code & don't play in the road), the same old 1979 twaddle 85% at 30, 5% at 20 .......I'm not expecting a reply any time soon.

"In original usage, a "road" was simply any pathway fit for riding ("road" is cognate with "ride", e.g.: ships ride at anchor in roads). The word “street,” whose origin is the Latin strata, was kept for paved pathways that had been prepared to ease travel in some way. Thus, many "Roman Roads" have the word "street" as part of their street name.

However, modern usage does not usually make this distinction and it is only important since place names often hold the earlier usage in them; these days, roads are also prepared in some way. This includes, at the least, the removal of trees and smoothing of the ground. In some dialects, lower grade roads are called trails and tracks and it is uncertain where "road" begins and trail ends. Roads are a prerequisite for road transport of goods on wheeled vehicles.

The word “road” emphasizes its function of transportation along its length, while a “street” may be considered to have activity and commerce taking place on it (see street life)"

Doesn't mention anything about playing and sofa's there.....

I agree with the concept of home zones being 20 mph, but again, needs proper road engineering, not just a load of inverted potholes

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The news article that has been quoted, does not do justice to this story.
To start with the man is an American, and the first display (road closed) was a Halloween street party idea over a year ago.
It then was repeated without closing the road this year, and the council told him to move it.
It was then that he pointed out that he was occupying less space than a parked car, AND decided to add his road safety argument.
Now he has the bit between his teeth, he's out to make a point at the councils expense for objecting to his unofficial street party.
He is against speed humps and cameras, saying they are not effective.
He believes that his approach will make motorists take notice.
It needs reporting better if he is to be proved right!!

Crazy American!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

There is a road in Winchester that has a form of traffic calming that restricts vehicles to 20mph. It's called a knackered road surface!

As long as I am paying road tax, Mr. Dewar, I am perfectly at liberty to tell you to "GET THAT CRAP OFF THE ROAD, YOU'RE CAUSING AN OBSTRUCTION!"

Have you ever stopped to consider how stupid you're going to look if you're road congesting arty-farty nonsense obstructs an emergency vehicle?

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Hey! Jenny is one of my favourite people - she must have been misquoted. And what's wrong with getting your kit off?

WTF???:



But it ISN'T your living space. It's a freakin' road. If the road were to be closed or removed, the same residents would complain about having to park their cars 300 yards from their house. It's just OTHER PEOPLE'S cars they object to. This is typical of the antisocial NIMBY attitude that is dragging this Country down.

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Agreed - their living space finishes at the end of their garden. Everything outside their property belongs to every other person in the country and or the Queen

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"John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality statute."

Aeroplanes pass over us all day and night at 'lethal' speeds, it's just that we know it's wise not to get in their way.

I have found the best way with my children is to discourage them from playing in the road and to choose very carefully where they cross and when they do, to look many times and listen first.

More hysterical female tosh. I'm not anti-women, but I'm anti this pandering to the stupid. They should be put in their place and told to look after themselves better and not keep impinging on others because of their inadequacy.