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Funny, I always thought that serious driving convictions were mainly for safety related issues. But then again, I forgot we were living in a police state!

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/28122005/344/blair-crackdown-prostitution.html



So you don't need courts anymore to give out driving bans....news to me.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Why do they always have to throw in the old "if you do whatever, you are financing drug dealing" routine?

Like you I always believed that you had to go to court in order to be disqualified, but nothing surprises me these days.

I can't actually see it becoming law that you get a ban for kerb crawling, how on earth are the judges & politicians going to get laid if they allow that?

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

Ah Gix, In today’s environment the judges and politicians will be exempt, you know all part of duty, and keeping the British end up.....

Once again won’t effect the criminals, they’ll simply move to another location, or move it all underground like it was before, and where they going to get the police to enforce it all.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

How can they tell the difference between a kerb crawler and a member of the Slower Speeds Initiative driving "safely"?

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

And what's to stop you pulling over to ask directions if you not from around the area.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Ah! This is where local forces score over mamouth size ones. We know the area - so we can tell who is kerb crawling and who isn't!

But I agree - sentencing, granting of warrants, ASBOs, issuing of fines - I'd want to see that stay with the courts! My job's to detect, apprehend and get the evidence (which can be contested) (and is usually on trial - and justice is then up to the courts to decide.

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

A Smiley Per post
FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

It's the same mentality that if you speed, you will always kill a child.
It makes it all seem worse.

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Semper in excreta, nur quantitat variat.

So, let me get this straight.

You're a 'bad person' if you go over the limit. ie too fast.

You're equally as bad if you stop and chat with the locals. ie too slow

Am I missing something here?

Perhaps they should put up 'reverse' Gatsoesque cameras at known prostitute hangouts to catch stopped cars! Whole new meaning to "getting flashed" in the red light district

Too true.- .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

More true than most people realise.

It wasn't that long ago that Sir Allan Green (Director of Public Prosecutions) was caught looking for a Kings Cross crack whore one night.

Judges, politicians, old bill.....they are all at it....hypocritical tossers, the lot of them!

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

edited.

Surely rather than having another ill-considered, knee-jerk "crackdown" - which is likely to simply drive the problem further underground - we should be looking at some kind of system of regulation and licensing of prostitution, which I believe works fairly well in parts of Australia, for example.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

I don't know why they are taking such a hard line over prostitution. After all it is legal in some other EU member states

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Speed camera policy Kills

I don't know how old you are, but back in 1987 there was a lady called Cynthia Payne who was facing several charges of controlling a brothel, disorderly house, prostitution, etc and she was apparently looking at a fairly long jail sentence (second offence).
Once it became public knowledge that most of her "clients" were "high society" (eg, judges, politicians, etc) and she would have no choice but to name them all in court, she was miraculously acquitted of just about everything she had been charged with

Another lady called Lindi St Clair (Miss Whiplash) also escaped god knows how many charges of tax evasion, etc after she made it clear that in order for her to declare what she had earned over the years, she would have no choice but to name all of her clients and what they had paid.


Nothing like that amazes me any more and hasn't for years.
I learnt 15+ years ago that everybody (including, judges, politicians, police officers, etc) have their price......you just have to find out what it is.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

Let's also remember the chap who had his licence taken away because he warned motorists of a speed trap- how can that be legal?
Like so many laws, what MAY have been a good idea (take the coke dealers' wheels away etc) has been misappropriated, and is being used to hit Joe Public (or is that Joe Motorist) hard.
Hence, the "£1000 cash means you're a criminal" scenario- originally set up to cut down on laundering, it means I have to take prrof of I.D., utility bills and birth cert. when I want to open a savings account for my 12 year old son, with the bank I've been with for over 20 years.

10K is the limit before anybody has to be informed.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

seen it done too many times, "we need this power to get these nasty evil people" then when the powers are granted used to persecute the little man- best example being the eye-spy big brother camera network in london, one of the main reasons it was pushed through was that it was to stop terrorists. now used to issue fines to people who forget to pay congestion tolls or who load on double yellows at some quiet hour. so these types of "offence" are considered terrorist in nature now?

and yet the police still bay for more power. NO F%!$ING WAY. I'd rather take my chances with the terrorists, drug dealers and paedophiles.

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Fear is a weapon of mass distraction

This about turn comes after David Blunkett announced his intention to RELAX laws, and legalise some brothels, on the grounds that it would enable better control and monitoring.

Maybe it was his own extensive "between the sheets" activities which only lately came to light, which inspired this line of thought?

I do agree that drugs have fuelled an increase in prostitution, and led to lower prices (so it said in the Express!). However, the people involved at this end of the business are victims themselves, and there is little to be gained from taking licenses from kerb crawlers - they'll just force the whole thing underground, and maybe we'll see a rise in crooked taxis drivers, running "sex tours" as has happened in some towns in the States who adopted a similar ploy.
Again, the "trade" will be the ones to suffer most.

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

Slightly going off topic I suppose, but when will government realise that banning something doesn't stop peole doing it, and if it were legalised it could be controlled and (dare I say it) taxed!

If they legalised brothels they could protect the health of the girls and punters and get the really nasty crack whores off the streets. I recon hookers working in properly run brothels would actually take fewer class A's because their working conditions would be better. It worked in Sydney...

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

Thats one mental picture I could have done without!

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Speed camera policy Kills