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Have a look at this news item.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... ory=677558

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Anyone who tells you that nothing is impossible has never bathed in a saucer of water.

First question i would be asking - why was a 14 year old riding one of these on a (presumably public road) .
Second question - why did her parents let her, worse still it was a Christmas present - didn't the parents think that some form of tuition might be a good idea?

Typical kneejerk reaction in britain today - ban them.
How will banning them stop kids using them - like the very effective(not) laws on minimotos and other illegal bikes.

Like the safety of our roads it all hinges on heresy that speed cameras and laws banning things are the cure for all road safety problems.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Surely what is needed is for the police to enforce the current law properly, .

That's too obvious, though

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Along with a good dollop of common sense from the parents - from my area and bikes - do they know - do they care??

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

This is what happens when you have a bunch of inadequates in charge! They believe that the reason these things happen is because the current rules are ineffective and therefor have to introduce new ones in order to be seen to be doing something about it - forgetting that resources and 'manpower' are required to enforce the rules.

Agreed - banning never worked in past. Is there less gun crime now handguns have been banned? Less knivings now carry anything bigger that a pocket knife is banned?

What a great idea, let's ban the inanimate object instead of looking at the root cause of this girls injuries (the irresponsible parents who let her out on it to start with).

If we are going to ban quads (which can be road legal BTW) because they are 'dangerous', then let's go the whole hog and ban cars, motorcycles, pedal cycles, trains, planes, etc.

After all, they can all be equally as dangerous in the wrong hands.



How about nicking the parents for aiding & abetting various road traffic violations?
Once the parents realise they are also responsible for their offspring, they might think twice before letting them out on motorised vehicles.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

I agree GIX - instead of banning them (quads), if they think they need new laws - how about one about careless parenting, parenting with out due care and attention.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

As an ex-handgun shooter I find it all too common that the only action sugested after any tragedy is to ban the object that was in use. As has been stated earlier in this thread, gun crime has not fallen since the private ownership of handguns was banned. Did anybody tell the criminals that they were no longer allowed to own their illegal weapons?

Time and time again our hopless govenment takes the easy option rather than taking time to consider why an event happened and how it could be prevented from happening again, without penalising other innocent participants. In the case of the Dunblane shootings, it could so easily have been prevented it the law then in force was enforced.

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Nick

Have to hold my hands up to this one - we bought our kids (9 and 5) a quad bike at christmas.

Only we are responsible enough to restrict its max speed to as slow as it will go. We watched them and instructed them on riding it for the first 3-5 hours they ALWAYS wear the helmet, they ALWAYS ride it in the relative safety of the yard or our fields, ABSOLUTEY no where near any roads/cars etc. It also has a remote cut out device - never had to use it as my kids know the quad can be dangerous and DONT do anything stupid.

I would blame the parents, how is this guy going to be able to sleep better because a law could be introduced. If he spent time instructing his daughter on how to ride and where, the outcome would have been very different....

We have got thousands of laws,

if the authorities can't use them to crack down on 'antisocial' behaviour without having new ones then I suggest that they aren't working hard enough.

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He said: "I was horrified when I read about what happened to Toni and I think something has to be done

Back to the old onion, i'm afraid -

the same old story too often gets in the press - "todler has narrow escape on estate road" -- the truth of the matter is that the parent failed in their duty to supervise the child and is trying to shift the blame.

Like the ads on telly for this or other compensation culture - bloke gets given wrong ladder and uses it -

Says it all about Britain today.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Does nobody have any common sense nowadays?

The parents bought the quad bike
They allowed the child to ride it unsupervised
They were not wearing a helmet

Now they want to ban them due to their own stupidity.

I'd love to write them a letter expressing my contempt.