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Sometime ago I joked, if the government passes laws penalising us for speeding, then why not extend the thinking to other “dangerous” things, such as, say, the maximum amount of heat we use in our houses?

Well, it may well happen!

On Jeremy Vine’s programme this lunchtime, there’s a New Labour MP proposing limiting the temperature of our bathwater, by law!!!!!!!

Aaaargh. Well, I think I will bring forward my plans to emigrate ….

and the argument will be "if it saves just one child"...

I do believe that there is a law in place already that states that hot water is capped to 60°C (at least under certain conditions anyway such as old folks homes, etc).

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Some showers also have a device that prevents the water temperature from exceeding (i think) 38C unless you actively press a detente button while the turning the temperature control up. it's supposed to be so young kids can't burn themselves.

do what i do don't have a bath

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So that's why you work on your own in the van!

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So how do the government square that with the need to keep hot water really hot in public buildings to counter Legionella bacteria building up in hot water tanks?

http://www.hse.gov.uk/lau/lacs/79-5.htm

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Hi all,

what happened to dipping your toe before diving in?

This is all about the Government/authorities covering their arses so people don't sue then for getting the proverbial burnt!

I suppose if it helps regulate some publicly used facilities it could be beneficial, some local authority WC's have water so hot i'm surprised the porclain doesn't crack!

Contrary to this we have motorway service stations that never seem to have hot water

Regards

Andrew

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Concede .. showers are a more difficult.. and even if a "mixed tap"- not always reliable

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Funny this has just been posted on Piston Heads forum, this has been an issue for a while and HSE/LA's have for a long time been trying to get a requirement for thermostatc valves as a standard in care homes (guess where most scalding deaths occour??) and government have resisted tooth and nail now a trade body is recommending it and it's suddenly a good idea.

Me cynical ???

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to be honest a lot of what is posted on pistonheads is pffffffffff anyway

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..not to mention when some joker flushes the loo while you're in the shower!

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The call is for thermostatic taps to be fitted in ALL NEW buildings, using a change in the building regs. to bring about the change.

Most of us here would not notice any difference for a while, until we moved into a NEW house, or an old folks home!

The press release says 200 people a year are injured due to scalding, resulting in 18 deaths.
Nearly ALL the fatalities were in the old age group - despite the care the government lavishes upon our old folk, in care homes up and down the country.
I for one dont mind the idea of thermostatic taps, but as a luxury improvement, it might well affect your council tax banding, which is why I wont be fitting them in MY home!

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camera operator the posting on Pistonm Heads is similar to this one albeit with stronger langauge, the comments about the HSE are mine, was involved with some CDM work in care homes about 3-4 years back and the HSE were not happy then hence the issue of the guidance that has been linked to above.

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Cold water First Then the Hot. To test Dip your toes or Elbow In. What they going to have Bathameras?

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How I run my bath..

Hot water to "warm" the bath - it's a nice large old bath... I need a big bath,... am the quintessential old fashion - tall...solid... sturdily built..

[You had to pass a height requirement in my day .. - This requirement was relaxed because it precluded candidates who had the potential to become darned fine officers - so no bad move in reality )

Anyway .. after warming the bath - runs some cold and then top up to lounging temperature with the hot ... tested by elbow and big toe

Shower? Have to agree with MM and Pete317...

On the serious side .. didn't Princess Margaret scald her foot when stepping into the bath once? Perhaps as we get older - our skin - specially feet becomes more sensitive and scalds more easily? I think MM did say it does thin a little...and thus loses some of its protective layers. Perhaps that's the explanation for the casualties in the young and old - in water tested by person in prime...just a thought..

These are accidents, of course, which should not happen - but do because far too many people just do not exercise common sense or practical vigilance - and I suspect a lot in the case of younger people has to do with expecting others to do the thinking for them

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I experienced one of these temperature limiters in a hotel recently.

The bath water came out warm; by the time the bath had filled it was only luke warm. Hence the bath was rubbish and i didn't enjoy it.

A good idea in care homes i think, but certainly not in every home.

Where would it stop?

Soon it will be: Lets restrict kettles to 44C - lots of people scald themseves each year.

On a slightly different note I saw something on TV the other day. The Police were using thermal imaging cameras to look for homes that were growing illegal drugs (high heat signature). So extending this discussion if our water is too hot they will be able to issue a FPN. If they are allowed to look into our homes using this technology at what point are we allowed privacy. The military are developing radar that can look through walls. When the police get their hands on this they will be able to spy on us in out own homes. George Orwell here we come.

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