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According to the front page of this site 85mph can be safe at times in a 30mph zone, can some-one please explain, sounds like the ramblings of a mad man to me, (or a copper)

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

Firstly, I can't see where it says that on the front page.

Assuming it does say that somewhere, it obviously doesn't mean any 30mph zone, but a very select few motorway-type roads that should not be 30s.

Iindeed, the most notable example which I refer to constantly is the A34 Handforth bypass which is a motorway standard dual carriageway with graded junctions which has an alternating 30mph/50mph limit (and a speed camera hidden behind a bridge)

Might it be some sort of reference to that traffic copper who got off for doing 160 on the M54? I think he also hit 85 in a 30 whilst out on the same "exercise"! Something to do with "honing his driving skills" as I recall!

I don't recognise it either.

But you can't judge the safety from the speed in mph.

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Paul Smith
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Its in the section on the speding policeman (which one I hear you say) the one that got away in court (no- narrow it down for us Sm) the one on the front page that an editor of tis website has wrote about --oh that one well 85mph was safe because............

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

Actually what it says is

[quote=front page article]But, but... 84 in a 30?

Most urban situations can never support 84mph in adequate safety, but 30mph speed limits are applied much more widely than they used to be and it's entirely possible to find places (especially around speed limit transitions) where a brief burst of 84mph may not cause any special hazard.

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There are indeed areas where a 30 mph limit is in place, where in the absence of anyother road user 85mph may not prevent any special hazard. Many urban dual carriageways fall into this and in fact at three in the morning I "could" safely do 100 mph through my village ( I wouldn't though just for clarity)

If it really is an issue for you come out with me one night, we'll stick to the limits don't worry, and lets go find some a photograph them, we can discuss what hazards we can see whilst we are at it.

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Former Military Police Officer and accident investigator

Winston Churchill Avenue (A2030), Portsmouth:
Dual carriageway (with permanent central reservation), no pedestrian access (with barriers and fences all round - no pavements), straight and clear, no junctions, deep embankments on both sides. It's safe to do any speed there so long as the excess speed is scrubbed before the pedestrian lights at both ends.

what and no bikes, no other vehicles, your just proving hat a bunch of excuse making speed freaks are attracted to this site of utter stupidity.

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

You asked a question I think that we were quite clear that it "may" be possible if "there are no other vehicles around"

Stop trying to be a smart alec, you are beginning to make yourself look foolish. I defended you the other day, don't make me regret that by proving yourself to be a troll.

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Former Military Police Officer and accident investigator

There's a nice cycle path that runs the full length of W.Churchill Avenue. As for "other vehicles", there is total visibility the full length of that stretch, especially since they knocked down the crime-magnet of a bridge that was in the middle.

Gareth

talking of utter stupidity, I clearly and quite deliberately said "straight and clear" it really would be quite obvious if there were other vehicles or bikes - it's just like a real dual carriageway were you can legally do 60 past a cyclist!



Paul, seriously now, can this fool be deleted? He's got back from a night out clearly tanked up and spoiling for a fight

On the contrary, I think he should be allowed to continue to shoot himself in the foot with every posting he makes. His increasingly frenzied diatribes, whilst obviously intended to wind up the real "sensible majority" (i.e. us), only serve to damage his own cause. A casual surfer would instantly "spot the loonie". Take a deep breath and give him even more rope.

Tanked up? Obviously he's an illegal underage drinker then

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Why can't we just use Common Sense?

No... He says that he's a "grown up"... Not that you'd think so after reading what he posts.

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"Politicians are the same the world over... We build bridges where there aren't any rivers." - Nikita Kruschev

Quite.

Against his/her illiterate drivel, our arguments look even more convincing.

How about the A1214 into Ipswich.

30mph for the whole Suffolk Coastal District Council part. One part has a golf course on one side of the road and fields on the other. The road is also streetlit and very straight. 85mph would be a doddle.

There is no excuse for this particular section being NSL; the rest of the road should have a 40mph/50mph limit due to its semi-rural and partially suburban characteristics. Not to say that faster is not possible; these limits would be considered reasonable by the majority. I have family who live in the vicinity of the road who share my view, because it is common sense!

the way i slice a ball playing golf, anyone traveling over 20 would think they had been hit a a bazooka

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Haha, why do they always build golf courses near motorways?

This was (I believe) a 40 limit until fairly recently, but was reduced to 30 in line with Portsmouth CC's policy of reducing all roads on the island to 30 or less

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