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Interesting post MM, just a couple of questions.
The lights they were using, were they LEDs, Halogen, HID or standard filaments?
Were they just back lights, front lights or both?
From the original papers - all were in use. But they did not split and I think they should have done so.
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As you say, Denmark is good example of a cycle friendly society, does the research differentiate between accidents on the road and on cycle paths? (I'm assuming, and I may be wrong, that a lot of the cycle journeys in Denmark are made on dedicated lanes rather than on the road).
The research was carried out in Odense - I have never visited this place but have been to Copenhagen and some other Danish resort once for a holiday. We did some sailing in the Baltic - we have some fond memories of many quaint coastal villages.
From the blurb I have from the German equivalent of the "BMJ" which also carries this research and like the BMJ - you have to pay to view these days - so useless to provide an on-line link. It's also written in German.
Odense does have a mix of dedicated lanes and roady use. As such it was "ideal" for this research piece.
It has shades of comparison with the call for drivers to use headlamps
all the time Really why this piece caught my attention like this.
Not to suggest using lights all the time as I do not think battery life would cope .. I get about 3 hours out of my Lupines on full power for example.
I do have doubts about whether or not eternal lights will provide "such magic" on the basis that if we all are lit up - whether in car or on bike .. humans will still make daft, but potentially lethal mistakes all the same as they wil simply "acclimatise to the point where this "norm" fails to "satnd out". I hope that makes some sense?
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I know one of SS's mantras is equal responsibility for all road users (not necessarily something I agree with but that's another debate), if this is the case won't all vehicles on the road have to be painted in hi-viz colours and have their headlights on constantly? (I refer you to Paul's post RE:visibilty arms race)
Oh - I think and hold myslef responsible for anything I do professionally and in my car and on my bike. My own family and the Swiss family do think likewise on this. I evaluate each drive and ride and try to think about any improvements - especially how whatever I planned to do affected another person on the road. However, since I do not seem to receive cofffee bean signs, curses, BEREEEEPS, and seem to get smiles and waves - can only assume then that I am doing summat right.
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Maybe you should keep your C+ issues off-site. I'm sure you'll agree with me that inflammatory posts help no-one. Especially in arguments between imovable objects and irresistable forces. Please don't take offence at this, I know you and I disagree on many things and this is not a personal dig, just a polite request.
The family - from last contact with the powers that be at C+ - are no longer treated with hostility. They agree that a certain troll is a problem and they say BANNED means BANNED and they have a brand to consider. We are trying to protect this good name and reputation. Half this family subscribe to the magazine and two of the Swiss youngsters look like "promising hot topics" of the future sport. I think they had a brief mention several issues ago in a Swiss cycling mag.. and briefly referred to as a "name to watch" in "Cylco Sport/CW and C+ itself
By the way my sister-in-law and her husband were featured in C+ before Mr Farelly's editorship.
Hence we are trying to protect the name FROM 24/7 TROLLS who do NOT RIDE BIKES and who only post to get some "virtual pat on the back" because they lead an otherwise lonely life.
I do feel very sorry for someone who leads this kind of life and can only suggest that he or she gets out and about and learns to like people in general. I mean that in concerned friendship and as a concerned doctor to whoever it is who lives his or her life on these chatty fora.
To the person concerned and I do mean this in sincerity and friendship - even if you do not see this as I intend or mean..
In your PH profile as "spindrift" - you described yourself as "Cathy Brown - single mum/estate agent in Norwich" I replied to you on PH at the time that you came across from this profile as someone who had suffered some trauma. You even apologised to my Wildy wife over something you posted to her at the time - which is to yoir credit.
Please - if all this is a result of some deep grief - then please see your doctor who will put you in contact wiith someone who will help you manage your giref and your anger.
I intend this advice with sincerity and concern for a fellow human being. The Swiss family are not as you have misinterpreted and misunderstood - and we certainly had to work har d to emerge from our own black hole of sheer trauma and grief some 16 years or so ago.
The show off and beat my chest bit
Our two intrepid cyclist starlets to be are based in Switzerland and already won a few teen/ young riders events. "Le Matin" etc tips them highly for the 2012 Games .. they are just 12 and 15 years at the moment.