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Mum's agony as son fights for life
Exclusive By Sian Davies
THE boy fighting for his life in hospital after a horrific motorbike crash is the brother of a teenager killed 18 months ago in a near-identical accident, the Daily Echo can reveal.

Lloyd Grundy, 15, was today in intensive care after result of losing control of the machine he was riding and careering into a parked car on a driveway, just metres from his home.

It bears chilling similarities to the accident that claimed his brother Lewis' life in January last year when he and friend Jamie Gosney, 15, were both killed after the moped they were riding ploughed into a car.

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In both cases none of the boys were wearing crash helmets.

"This has brought it all back to me. I never got over Lewis but this has just opened it all up to me again. I am numb with shock."
Karen Gibson

The boys' mother told the Daily Echo how she thought Lloyd had learnt the "hard lesson" following the death of his 17-year-old older brother, and feels "numb" that another of her children has been involved in a motorbike crash.

Karen Gibson was told of the accident by a neighbour and said she couldn't take in what had happened.

"She told me and I just went out and there he was, lying there.

"I remember giving them all a lecture when Lewis died saying I hope they would learnt the hard lesson from this. I think they did for a while but I can't believe it has happened again."

Speaking of the similar nature of the accidents Ms Gibson said: "This has brought it all back to me. I never got hold of Lewis but this has just opened it all up to me again. I am numb with shock. I just hope Lloyd pulls through."

As reported in later editions of the Daily Echo 15-year-old Lloyd, who shares the same birthday as his brother Lewis, was riding back to his home on Matheson Road at the junction with Buchanan Road when he lost control of the trial bike around 3am on Sunday.

Lloyd and a 16-year-old friend, who was riding pillion, came off the bike which had been borrowed from a friend.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

As tragic as this accident is, why the hell was a 15 year old riding a bike on the road, let alone with a friend on PILLION.

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

And at 3 in the morning?

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

And who is responsible? Why, the boys themselves. Still, if this one dies then we can all go and put flowers on the site where they crashed.

Sympathy? Ha, Ha.

One for the Darwin Awards.

Sorry, but I am sick of people feeling sorry for mindless prats.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

Refining the gene pool?

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

http://archive.thisishampshire.net/2005/1/29/12610.html

http://archive.dailyecho.co.uk/2005/2/1/12475.html

http://archive.dailyecho.co.uk/2005/10/19/95225.html

http://archive.dailyecho.co.uk/2005/4/2/8953.html

http://archive.dailyecho.co.uk/2005/3/30/9173.html

http://archive.dailyecho.co.uk/2005/2/4/12283.html

http://archive.dailyecho.co.uk/2005/1/31/12562.html

http://archive.dailyecho.co.uk/2005/1/28/12656.html

http://archive.dailyecho.co.uk/2005/1/28/12671.html

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

There was "something funny" about the case 18 months ago in which the brother died. It was reported in a very low key way with little criticism of the boys. They were, of course, said to be nice lads etc. etc.

On the first anniversary of the deaths, about 100 people marched to the crash site and held a vigil in memory of the boys. Quite unusual, you might think, given that the inquest had found them to be totally to blame and were unlicensed, uninsured, on the wrong side of the road and illegal in several other ways.

There is more to this story than meets the eye.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

I can't find the story I wanted but they had drunk and taken drugs, and no helmits. I would love to see the rest of the "accident" report.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

I know the driver of the car in the original accident through another forum. The kids on the bike were both drunk, no helmets and had taken so much ecstasy that they would most likely have died of that if they hadn't crashed into him. The bike was unroadworthy and they had no lights on at around 11:30pm.

Came round the corner so far onto the wrong side of the road that they clipped the curb with the bikes back wheel.

Apparantly the family got a bit nasty at the coroners court and tried to get the blame put on him but the coroner threatened to throw the mum out if she didn't shut up.

Followed by a speed camera. There's 4 KSIs here, only one more needed. Of course the camera would have prevented these 4 deaths.

ok. 1 dead two crashes
no2 injured, might have been the other rider at his brothers crash
he will get better and carry on his ways

then there is little brother aged 9-10

I only live 700m from this lot

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Could you do us all a favour anton and put the whole family out of our miseries?

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

call me what you will, but who pays for the damage to the car they hit? I'd be inclinded to bill the parents, after all they are ultimately to blame.

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And if you report bike problems , do they wait for you to say "forget it , it's stopped" as a reason to attend ????

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on