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despite him being caught and charged and convicted of criminal damage, the court would not release his details to the insurance company so they can reclaim costs.


That is sickening


their reasoning was that he had been punished by the community service, the banning order (in the same court he was found guilty of harassing his 16 year olf ex girlfriend and her new chap) and the fine, so he did not need to be punished any more. I explained that I did not want the insurance company to punish him, they wanted to get their money back for the damage he had caused.

It stinks, but what could I do? I could have got his address through "another route" but I could have been held up in contempt of the court.

As my neigbour said at the time ... I shouldn't have stopped, I should have just run him over.

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their reasoning was that he had been punished by the community service, the banning order (in the same court he was found guilty of harassing his 16 year olf ex girlfriend and her new chap) and the fine, so he did not need to be punished any more.


:angel: poor wee lamp. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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:( WHO TRIES TO START A FIGHT WITH A CAR ? :( :lol:


I blame the teachers. :hehe:


:clap1: Yeah the bunch of lazy good for nothings, always on :D hoilday :D
:hehe: I ONLY HAVE 4 and 1/2 WEEKS LEFT NIGHTMARE!!!! :hehe:


Don't start me off on teachers :x

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handy wrote:
I should have just run him over.

Free bit of advice Handy.....sideswipe the little shits, the last thing you need is a bill for £500 for a new airbag caused by them hitting the bumper switch :wink:

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the guy who kicked crap out of my car last year did, and he won - I had to lose my no claims to get the car repaired, at a cost of £600, despite him being caught and charged and convicted of criminal damage, the court would not release his details to the insurance company so they can reclaim costs.

All of the other cars he damaged (the ones that weren't occupied at the time) didn't claim, didn't go to court. Little shit.


Surely court proceedings are held in public and are a matter of public record. The name and address of the defendant is read out as part of the pleading process, is it not?

I would write to the court and ask again for the information and ask that if they intend to refuse your request, under what legislation?


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the guy who kicked crap out of my car last year did, and he won - I had to lose my no claims to get the car repaired, at a cost of £600, despite him being caught and charged and convicted of criminal damage, the court would not release his details to the insurance company so they can reclaim costs.

All of the other cars he damaged (the ones that weren't occupied at the time) didn't claim, didn't go to court. Little shit.


The name and address of the defendant is read out as part of the pleading process, is it not?


Dosn't that depend on the age of the person?

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Dixie wrote:
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the guy who kicked crap out of my car last year did, and he won - I had to lose my no claims to get the car repaired, at a cost of £600, despite him being caught and charged and convicted of criminal damage, the court would not release his details to the insurance company so they can reclaim costs.

All of the other cars he damaged (the ones that weren't occupied at the time) didn't claim, didn't go to court. Little shit.


The name and address of the defendant is read out as part of the pleading process, is it not?


Dosn't that depend on the age of the person?


Yes. Und nature of crime as well.

Ja - Social Services are inept. You notify - but unless child ist injured - they do not assess. If parents are disabled or slow learners - different.

If child has some illness - not necessarily hereditary - but prone to bruising und breaks for slightest bump or fall... parent can be accused of all sort und these people sometimes refuse to listen to medical experts too.

In such cases where they can impose their "authority" - they do. If something which require some thought und harder work und real initiative - they do not want to know.

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Tell me about it, Dieselmoment. I was doing less than 15mph in the car park of my local supermarket today when a middle aged lady stepped right out in front of me from between two parked vans.

I stopped and waved her across. I even managed a smile.

And for this I got a dirty look and a fist waved at me.

The thing is, the law backs up people like this. If I had made even the slightest contact with her, I would have had her claiming off my insurance company for whiplash, pschological trauma and whatever else her solicitor could dream up. And in the absence of any honest witnesses, she would have won.



Also had this. Waved what looked to be a young "lady" across a road. She was smartly dressed. She was at bollard before a mini roundabout at which I would be stopping anyway. So I wave her across.

She crosses in front of me und next thing I know she ist hurling abuse at me und even banging on the car window. I have the kittens in the car. They are alarmed at this. My youngest ist woken und starting to grizzle at the commotion. I also carry a dictaphone in my handbag as well as a ditgital camera.

I stop car (have to soothe Rachael - my second daughter calmed her) und ask her what matter ist. I mention she upset my children und I was polite enough to stop for her und ensure she cross road safely. I was polite und calm - but finger pressed on 999 button on Handy phone in pocket just in case. (Hate them - but have one for such emergency use)

She screams more abuse und seems to be enjoying herself. I suspect she get pleasure out of tantrum. Not worth calling police. Suspect tantrum und adrenalin rush of getting wound up und enjoying it - seen it before with a foster child once. I have switched on my dictaphone und my son clicks camera. I ask her calmly if she has had dreadful day at work und wants to blow off steam und ask if she now feel better for this und remind her that I have now all this on record. She continues to scream hysterically at this point. I give her a look - whip out Handy, und my identity card which allow me into lab - und inform her in tone of voice which kittens recognise as "claws are out" :rotfl: that as a doctor (und I am one as well - but a research specialist one) that in my considered opinion she ist a danger to self und others und if she does not cease screaming - I will dial a number und arrange to have her sectioned :hehe:

How strange. She shuts up und walks into a chip shop where she buy chips und gravy und walks - I think homewards. Lady in chip shop say girl (a regular) ist one of rudest she ever serves und seems to love shouting a lot.

Takes all sorts I suppose.


I did call the police when I got home in case - but "no one was injured und car was not damaged" Could have called police at the time.. but then would they have come? I was being screamed at but not in danger.

Thinking back :scratchchin: I think I should have dialled for help - could have been a form of schizophrenia und she may need medication to help her. I hope her family do seek help for her in that case. Perhaps I did not do right thing by not reporting und getting a policeman there on scene.

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Thinking back :scratchchin: I think I should have dialled for help - could have been a form of schizophrenia und she may need medication to help her.

Sounds more like to me, you would have done society a favour by running her down. I hate these "thug-bitches"...

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