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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 23:07 
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Noticed something tonight. They have recently been reducing speed limits near my house all in the name of road safety. Well, there is a junction where a 60 joins a 40 and there is no sign at this junction to inform the driver that they are entering a 40 zone.

The first 40 repeater is several hundred yards away from the junction in which time someone could easily exceed this speed.

What would happen if someone was clocked doing 60 between the junction and the first repeater, as they could argue they had no way of knowing it was a 40.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 23:54 
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That would be a winnable case.

If the speed limit isn't signed in accordance with the regulations then the law say you cannot be convicted.

And it wouldn't fix itself when you reached the repeaters. The absence of the terminal signs (at the entrance to the limit) is a fatal error for the entire speed limit.

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SafeSpeed wrote:
That would be a winnable case.

If the speed limit isn't signed in accordance with the regulations then the law say you cannot be convicted.

And it wouldn't fix itself when you reached the repeaters. The absence of the terminal signs (at the entrance to the limit) is a fatal error for the entire speed limit.


I am tempted to go do 60 on the stretch in question just to stick one up the local camera partnership. :twisted:


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Mark_K wrote:
SafeSpeed wrote:
That would be a winnable case.

If the speed limit isn't signed in accordance with the regulations then the law say you cannot be convicted.

And it wouldn't fix itself when you reached the repeaters. The absence of the terminal signs (at the entrance to the limit) is a fatal error for the entire speed limit.


I am tempted to go do 60 on the stretch in question just to stick one up the local camera partnership. :twisted:


Make bloody sure there's definately no termination sign first though!

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Mark_K wrote:
I am tempted to go do 60 on the stretch in question just to stick one up the local camera partnership. :twisted:


Well the ironically named Humberside Safety Camera partnership are likely to be there waiting to zap you, given their favourite roads for enforcement appear to be busy, main roads that used to be NSL (and safe to do 60) and now have been reduced to either 30 or 40mph zones.

The rules for mobile camera enforcement, which incidently is their favourite, require 2 ksi within the last 4 years, this is much less stringent than the requirements for siting a permenant speed camera. They basically allow partnerships to plonk their tallivans on almost any busy main road and to reap the financial rewards for doing so, most extremely busy roads (such as the one between hull and york for instance) will easily meet this criteria due to the sheer traffic volume, not because they are in any way more dangerous than an 'average' road.


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