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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 21:44 
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Paul's comments have appeared on C+. I had to laugh at the comment the poster made:

"Looks to me that the Great Satan himself is suppporting us"


And to think we're all the devils followers :shock:

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prof beard wrote:
Paul's comments have appeared on C+. I had to laugh at the comment the poster made:

"Looks to me that the Great Satan himself is suppporting us"

perhaps if some of them bothered to read a bit further they'd realise he always has.


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oniznorb wrote:
It does not seem unreasonable to make cycle lanes compulsory where they are properly segragated from the road and free from obstructions.

But if that is done, the road must be signed as banned for cyclists. I can imagine that happening where there are high-quality rural dual carriageways with parallel cycle lanes, but not on short stretches of road.

I agree with Paul - cyclists are legally permitted to ride on any roads where they aren't specifically prohibited.

This prosecution is totally wrong. I don't like it when lots of people on here suddenly become anti-cyclist, or anti-bus. Surely friendly co-operation between all road users is the core of this campaign.

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oniznorb wrote:
I'm sure that at one time, the highway code showed the round sign Image to mean that the cycle lane was compulsory and the rectangular sign indicated an optional cycle lane.


I think that sign means "cycles only" meaning other traffic may not use that lane. It does not mean that cyclists have to use that lane.

The sign is commonly found in London where roads have been closed off or made one-way restricted at entry or exit, but where cyclists are provided a narrow route to overcome the restriction.


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Earl Purple wrote:
oniznorb wrote:
I'm sure that at one time, the highway code showed the round sign Image to mean that the cycle lane was compulsory and the rectangular sign indicated an optional cycle lane.


Don't know about that but, the highway code does have this:

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Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10mph or less.
Laws RTA sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26


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oh yes, total chaos as you were 'held up' for all of a tenth of a second getting past. Unlike the gridlock you faced at the next junction you came to which didn't hold you up at all.


I think you have missed the point. But then that doesn’t surprise me.

I'll try again shall I

Two lanes FULL of free flowing traffic at 50mph. Line of trucks nose to tail on the left hand lane. Line of trucks brake to avoid running into cyclist and have to swerve into L2. Dual carriage way now down to a single lane traffic now flowing at 25 MPH. Cyclist lucky to still be alive.

6 foot wide cycle lane next to the road empty.

Now do you get it..... :wink:

Ahh, Gizmo - you should simply take to the empty cycle lane, and make good progress as long as it is wide enough! It's not like you would be inconveniencing anyone - it only takes an oncoming cyclist all of a tenth of a second getting past you by swerving around - perhaps less if the grass is short!
After all, many motorists have to find a parking space one they get to their location. :(

I use the cycle lane on the way to work when I cycle, which is swept regularly where I travel, but I DO take to the road before I reach the point where I have to cross from one side to the other, as often there is no safe gap in the traffic for a minute or three, so if a convenient opening occurs, I cross over one or two hundred yards before, and make my way as quickly as possible to the ramp where I rejoin the cycle path. As far as I can tell, the only riders who do not use the path at all, are off comers, who dont even trouble to find out if the path is good or not.

The road is twisty for much of it's length, hilly, and busy, and anyone riding in the road puts themselves at risk. I take care to minimise the risk, but accept that there is one!

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