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Here's the latest utter nonsense from traffic planners, spotted on the A39 near Barnstaple

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I suppose any cyclists have to cycle in the middle then?

You are allowed into the hatched area because it isn't bounded by a solid line...

Perhaps it's to allow motorcyclists to practice the swerve manouvre that's going to be incorporated in the new motorbike test?

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It’s blatantly obvious that work has been carried out just to frustrate drivers and cause congestion. Maybe it’s all part of the master plan before they introduce pay as you go. What a sad end to a perfectly good road .

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That's horrendous!!!!

And I thought local authorities were supposed to be reducing dangerous road furniture!

They need shooting

is it NSL?

Does that piece of idiocy make it technically a dual carriageway, so drivers can legally do 70?

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Why are there broken "hazard" lines if you are not supposed to cross them? If one were to lose control of ones vehicle do you get smashed to pieces on the posts? A motor cycle could drive between the posts, assuming they had a good aim and puncture resistant tyres...

That last post a very good point.

Surely the lack of solid white lines and the bollards directly contradict each other?

To be fair that looks like a road where overtaking could be quite dangerous if not done with enough consideration.

If they'd have put a solid white line down there, people would have ignored it - they're programmed to think only of the lines in the centre of the road, not spaced far apart.

Bollards are obviously cheaper than armco.

Stupid all round really. It looks a little bit like the A6144(M), now without the (M). Used to be a 70, now a 50 (average speed was about 55mph IIRC). I still do 70 down it though

Are the bollards polythene or steel?

(And where did I put my bulldozer?)

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so.. technically... with no traffic coming the other way you could cross and drive on the right hand side of the road...?

or perhaps a slalom challenge

are there any no overtaking signs to go with it?
i assume not since (as previously mentioned) the markings aren't solid.

Looks to me as if there is room there for two lanes in one direction. IMO that's a very effective way to improve traffic flow up a hill, and if an overtaking lane was provided which alternated from side to side every few miles I think it could improve things generally. That system is just a waste of perfectly good tarmac.

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It's not my picture, but apparently there previously were two lanes in the direction the camera is pointing.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

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Borrow my bulldozer, Paul!

That's the trouble though: they don't want to improve traffic flow. They want to cause congestion so they can then step in and 'solve' it.

If you have a lorry break down on that section of road... Isn't it going to be pretty hard to get around it (due to the distance from the bollards on the left to the bollards on the right), and getting equipment to the area could be hard too, it would probably mean blocking the other side of the road while you move everything from one side to the other...

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Mike

Perhaps a local farmer should spend several hours driving his tractor up and down that section of road at about 15 mph as a protest.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

eeeek.. yes..... how do you get a police car down there or an ambulance when there is an accident?

Or a fire engine...

"oh that's obvious! We expect all car drivers to be able to parallel park in the centre reservation between the bollards in double quick time, and all truck drivers to......hmmm......oh errr............oops.
We didn't really think this one through did we?"

Aha, now I understand. The photo isn't complete. It doesn't show the ramps at both ends that allow the emergency vehicles to bypass traffic by doing this: