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Boy dies 'running away from car'

BBC News, Monday, 11 September 2006, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/camb ... 334070.stm

Gran's tribute to road death boy (later edition)

The grandmother of a seven-year-old boy who was killed when he was hit by a car while running across a dual carriageway said she was "devastated" at his death.

Jordan Brown was one of three children playing on the A47 in Peterborough on Sunday when they were spotted by a policewoman driving past.

As she stopped her patrol car, Jordan ran into the road and was hit by a car.

His grandmother and legal guardian, Carol Haynes, 45, said: "He was a cheeky lad but lovely with it."

Jordan was hit by a Chrysler Voyager, driven by a 43-year-old man from Market Deeping, Lincolnshire, and died at the scene.

A police spokesman said the policewoman was "being supported" after the accident, which happened just before 1330 BST.

Ms Haynes said: "He had been living with me since he was three years old and I have been his guardian for three years.

"It was out of character for him being on the road and I'm supporting the police investigation into what has happened. I can't understand why he was there.

"I think something should be done to stop kids going onto the road in the future.

"He was a much loved young lad who will be sadly missed."

Sgt Tim Stonebridge said: "We need to build up a clear picture of exactly what happened in the minutes leading up to this child's death.

"Witnesses report seeing him playing in the area of the central reservation and he appears to have run out into the traffic, resulting in the collision in which he died."

like what ?

the word 'parenting' springs to mind ?

A speed camera will fix it

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we rang the police on saturday having been horrified to see two kids riding down the hard shoulder of the M6

They always are "lovely and cheeky with it"

I know his guardian will have not had it "easy" just on the few facts given and I will base on my own knowledge of fostering rather difficult youngsters.

I mention this just to get some balance - and I would not like Ms Haynes to think anyone holds her parenting skills as lacking here given she says she does not undersand why he chose to play on the dual carriageway.

As folks on here aware. we foster and we have one head banger at the moment.. we managed .. we think .. to steer from the booze.. but one sure hell raiser and I admit he's a real challenge to my "authority."

Oh .. it's hard work


Continually challenging where he's been .. who he's been with.. and allowing a little personal freedom and continually reining him in and pulling to the straights and narrows.. disciplining to meet the little hurdles...


I do think our society has lost the plot on basic discipline. "Child centred" seems to be interpreted as meaning "failed if child complains of boredom and not being enertained 24/7"

I think we must get back to basics.. My kids enjoy and still enjoy playing with Geo-Mag/Magnetrix.. Meccano.. Scalextric and Airfix (I am truly saddened over the demise of Airfix models). Old fashioned fun.. it builds character and skills.

Childhood is not about being little adults. it is about being a child and enjoying being that care free child who is also aware that if we spare that rod (ie reign in to discipline and moral and ethical common sense values..) we - er - spoil the child..

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There has been more detail on the television broadcast, such as his father is in prison for a motoring offence.

It worries me that speed limits of 60 and 50mph, or less, will now be imposed on all the dual carriageways around Peterborough due to these few delinquent children and this one tragic death, so everyone will then suffer slower journeys and all the paraphernalia and misery of speed enforcement with laser camera vans.

At least she never said the usual knee-jerk reaction "Something needs to be done about the speed of cars here"

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Actually yeah that's the first thing I thought - no comments about "reckless" driving for once. But still, ed_m does have a major point about parental responsibility

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sorry yes, that was a generic comment not meant to directly question the responsibility of the individual gaurdian concerned.

but the 'something must be done' reaction seems to imply its someone elses problem??

and yes i too imagined they were playing chicken, i mean roads arent actually a great deal of fun to actually play on unless you're interfering with the traffic in someway (throwing things, playing chicken etc.)

It would seem you may be correct.

The ITV news story was that they were playing chicken, but when the police car stopped the boy who was killed was on the central reservation and then tried to run away from the police car across the carriageway and was hit by the car.

It would seem they were up to no good, were not quite the lovely cheeky little darlings they were made out to be and they were not very well supervised.

It was certainly a tragedy for the car driver involved.

Darwin.

And it's people like you who give Darwin a bad name. A seven year old boy has died: it's not a game.

If the boy had been killed by lightning, would you mock that it serves him right because of Faraday?

But why the hell was a 7 year old playing on a road?! I knew at 7 that I wasn't allowed to play far from my house and I sure as hell kne not to play on the road.

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well it certainly wasn't darwin's fault

Nail on the head Sixy.

I constantly had two lessons 'drummed' in to me EVERY single time I stepped out of the front door....

Stay away from the road
Stay away from strangers

As for actually crossing the road, we had the 'Green Cross Code' guy (Keith Prowse IIRC) bombarding us during EVERY single commercial break on ITV.

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If he's more scared of the police than a busy dual carriageway then quite frankly, DARWIN. He obviously KNEW he wasn't supposed to be there.

No, it's not a game-he's not around to grow up into an inmate anymore.

No, but Darwin didn't invent the motor car either

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I am truly very sorry about the death of this boy

As I understand it Darwin made the point that those who are best equipped to survive will be more likely to produce the next generation.

Messing about on a busy dual carriageway at the age of 7 and running in front of a car is not a good strategy for surviving to produce the next generation. Hence however sad this is, it is an inescapable reality.

Well said.

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