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 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Would an advanced driving test within ten years ...

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 13:53 

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malcolmw wrote:
I could envisage the rate of delinquency on this being so high as to render it unenforceable.

What would be an appropriate sanction against someone who did not take the advanced test but had had no accidents in the 10 years previously?


If it were a legal requirement, I guess you would be banned.

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Would an advanced driving test within ten years ...

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 13:50 

Replies: 13
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It would involve a vast amount of time and expense for very little benefit. Accidents overwhelmingly result from failures of attitude or concentration, not from lack of competence as such. And there was a post the other day reporting that no discernible benefit in accident rates could be attributed...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Would an advanced driving test within ten years ...

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 07:58 

Replies: 13
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Would an advanced driving test, which must be passed within ten years of your normal driving test, be a good idea? This would make people think about their quality of their driving from the start. If the test were at the level of the IAM test, surely most people would be able to pass it in ten years.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 18:54 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


Pete317 wrote:
trakgalvis wrote:
I was not talking about here, but where the proposals are being drafted.


My humblest apologies :oops:


:)

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 18:53 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


Under what conditions do you see the stability to be a problem? If you're riding along and the system detects (or thinks it detects) a change to a lower limit which is considerably slower than you're going at the time. If the throttle then suddenly tightens up, and you don't have a firm grip on it,...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Quick quiz for the mathematicians/statisticians

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:56 

Replies: 82
Views: 19986


Big Tone wrote:
Steve wrote:
Pete317 wrote:
Are you sure it's not 3.1417 times, just to make it a nice, round number? :D

That number almost makes me hungry - almost :wink:
Anyone for a slice of Pie? :D Just trying to prove I'm keeping up :P


Well, you should have noticed that it is not pi to the displayed number of figures! :)

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 15:53 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


IMO there is a fundamental flaw in all these speed limiting/sensing/warning schemes .... it all seems to assume that that actual numeric speed in isolation is of huge importance for road safety ... Where is the evidence to support this? Can any of the perpetrators of these devices actually give muc...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 05:19 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


Nobody had been talking about closing the throttle, until now. Are you really claiming (now) the plan was to completely kill the power? If not, what you are saying does not apply, does it? I think the best way to fight a bad suggestion is for the comments to be well targetted on exactly what that s...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 05:09 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


Pete317 wrote:
trakgalvis wrote:
It is very disturbing to think that discussions about this probably do not have a single biker in the room.


There's at least one that I know of in here.


I was not talking about here, but where the proposals are being drafted.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 04:56 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


It is very disturbing to think that discussions about this probably do not have a single biker in the room. Ahem... I don't understand why you would say that so soon without knowing your audience, but no matter... For what it's worth, from me, I hope you stick around. Kawasaki Tone I did not mean h...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 20:10 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


The "hard to turn" throttle is a new idea, the other one (that is favoured over all others) is to just limit the speed by limiting the engine rpm electronically/electromechanically. As you can imagine, the idea horrified practically all motorcyclists. The latter idea morphed somewhat when...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 16:33 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


Thanks for moving this thread - I had thought that it should be in the motorcycling thread, but I guess this is the best place for it. Re stability, I think that the comments from Duncan MacKillop, advanced motorcycle trainer, are my best response to that question. "I too was involved in the i...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 13:13 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


It's very simple. the right hand has many function to perform on a m/cycle. Engine revs. Braking. Indication (at least on mine). Head/side lights. The last thing I need is a stiff twist grip to contend with, and one which varies it's stiffness with either engine speed or road speed. The idea behind...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:01 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


If I am overtaking using ALL the throttle is best - that old addage of only using 3/4 and 'keeping a reserve' is nonsense - why ? On a power motorcycle with say a 0 to 60 of 3 seconds, there are a lot of times when you would not use full acceleration. If you want to me to describe them in detail, I...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:56 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


There have been many discussions about ISA in these forums - one link here ... there are many dangers with ISA and throttle / braking controls. Not least - what happens when it goes wrong, because it surely will ? I also foresee a return to simple mechanical vehicles and bike to overcome this - or ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 09:42 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


:welcome: I have often thought that some sort of device which stiffened the throttle spring when you reached the speed limit would be quite useful. Not stiff enough to stop you going through it but enough to warn you. And I would want to be able to turn it off Not on a motorbike for reasons of stab...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 08:07 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


dcbwhaley wrote:
:welcome:

I have often thought that some sort of device which stiffened the throttle spring when you reached the speed limit would be quite useful. Not stiff enough to stop you going through it but enough to warn you. And I would want to be able to turn it off


An interesting idea!

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed Limiters for Motorcycles

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 08:03 

Replies: 57
Views: 23301


I was once on a road where a speed trap created a dangerous situation, which forced me to go at 93mph on a 60mph to resolve it, at the speed trap site. So, nobody was hurt because my 1000cc motorcycle (BMW R100GS) could go 33mph over the speed limit. Furthermore, I was able to prove this in court, a...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Quick quiz for the mathematicians/statisticians

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 18:41 

Replies: 82
Views: 19986


I like you trakgalvis, about 2.717 times more than I did yesterday :D When I was a school kid I used a slide rule and my Physics teacher had the first electronic calculator from Sinclair. (Circa 72?). I never owned one or ever got the chance to play with one but I remember it was weird to use, some...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Quick quiz for the mathematicians/statisticians

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 13:34 

Replies: 82
Views: 19986


Dammit, I thought of that just 5 minutes ago (I've just got up). It made perfect sense that things more often begin with 1 than 9. Then I thought about how things are displayed on a log graph (something I've been teasing spindrift with recently); 1 to 1.99999999 takes the biggest chunk of the axis,...
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