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Forum: Motorcycling Topic: Hemsworth quad bike RTC |
| the-gog |
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 18:52
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| I've today heard from a Hemsworth local who was in the area when this RTC happened. He confirms the following: the road is unlit; the quad bike was unlit; none of the quad bike riders were wearing crash helmets; the road was foggy at the time; earlier that evening, the same quad bike was seen pullin... |
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Forum: Motorcycling Topic: Hemsworth quad bike RTC |
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 18:57
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| This is an appalling tragedy and a salutory lesson about the irresponsibility of youth and its consequences. I am a bit puzzled as to how the police can have arrested TWO people suspected of DD, Surely only one can have been driving. We will no doubt hear more about this. Unless both were having fu... |
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Forum: Motorcycling Topic: Hemsworth quad bike RTC |
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 18:47
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| Other accounts say the quad bike was unlit. This relatively new A road is unlit, and going by the looks of it in the morning, it would also have been foggy that night. Said incident occured sometime between Saturday night and 12:30am on Sunday morning. Thus we have four people riding on what police ... |
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Forum: Motorcycling Topic: Hemsworth quad bike RTC |
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 18:41
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| http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/updated-birthday-girl-16-was-one-of-four-hemsworth-quad-bike-victims-1-7482851 Four young friends who were killed near Hemsworth when a sports car collided with the quad bike they were riding had apparently been celebrating the 16th birthd... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 19:20
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| What's particularly evident is that there isn't a single or double white line down the centre of the road. That's particularly illuminating, isn't it? Having refreshed my memory of what the road looks like, I'm just as firm in my opinion that the wrong driver was prosecuted. I would estimate the 807... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 22:47
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| I've now had a chance to drive the road, and film it on my Roadhawk HD dashcam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRhUU28fH0&feature=youtu.be The layby where Denise Griffith was pulling over to the right to park in was just behind the "Slow Tractor" sign in this video, but notice that it... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 19:43
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Dyche has appealed the severity of his sentence. His appeal was thrown out by the appeal court. A link to the article in today's Daily Post:
http://db.tt/Lv99FRf8 |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 23:21
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| As I have already written on this thread, Denise Griffiths can't have been doing any more than 35mph to have contemplated pulling over on that patch of earth. Had she been doing 40, she would have had to do a harsh brake. It would be a pretty quick deceleration from 35mph as it is. I must admit tha... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 22:52
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| Any competent driver wouldn't have to ask that question , they would know with certainty that they had seen the following cars, decided that they had no intention of overtaking, judged that they were a safe enough distance behind to start indicating and braking without danger of the following vehic... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 22:51
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graball wrote: Firstly, I don't think that road is a 50MPH limit, it certainly wasn't when I was last on it 2 years back and it's not the sort of road that would "normally" get a 50MPH limit.
It is a B road, B4518, but yes, parts of it certainly could easily pass for a decent A road. |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 22:49
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| ... and somebody indicating to pull out across the opposite carriageway could reasonably expect a vehicle approaching from behind to see their indication, and adjust their course accordingly. No. If car#1 pulled out when there's a vehicle approaching from behind, car#1's driver MUST pull back in, a... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 22:46
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| ...so the limit would be 50mph No idea if this is correct - but if it was, and the other vehicles were doing 40mph as reported, than Dyches planned overtake of more than one vehicle was not something that was going to happen quickly, and somebody indicating to pull out across the opposite carriagew... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 22:11
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| As for what Dyche admitted at the scene, that should largely be ignored. People blubber all sorts of things when in a state of shock One paper reported that the woman said something along the lines "I thought to myself, have I just killed my family?" Surely that is just as damming as dych... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 18:57
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| I rather suspect that this case occurred in similar circumstances, and could have been avoided if Dyche had not been so impatient as to ignore the potential for other road users to follow their own course - as anticipated in the section of the Highway Code I quoted. So following this logic, all ove... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 16:51
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| I often wonder if this is another example of the driver of lead vehicle driving above their ability. They drive safely enough to cope with the road, but their ability is not enough to allow them to glance in the mirror.All attention is needed to focus on road ahead. I often wonder if this is one re... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 16:48
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ed_m wrote: perhaps we could sneak round putting stickers on people's wing mirrors and see how long it takes for them to notice 
I like your style. |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 15:44
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| If he had been approaching the two lead cars at say 60MPH and done a "catapult" overtake, then I can understand her lack of attention but to have cars following you for over a mile and not being aware of them or the fact they are likely to maybe want to overtake, at the first straight bit... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 13:31
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| Overtaking is a legal and reasonable response to a slower car in front. If you habitually drive, shall we say, "carefully" you must expect people to overtake and act accordingly. I don't know what it's like where you're from, but around here "Thou shall not overtake" is the 11th... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:59
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| I rather suspect that this case occurred in similar circumstances, and could have been avoided if Dyche had not been so impatient as to ignore the potential for other road users to follow their own course - as anticipated in the section of the Highway Code I quoted. So following this logic, all ove... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: open and shut case?? |
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 15:09
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| it would seem that the high and mighty of Shropshire would like to see this guy, hung , drawn and quartered. Is it just me or does 4 years seem a bit excessive for this case, unless they are taking into account his previous driving without insurance case. http://www.shropshirestar.com/lifestyle ...... |
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