Flynn wrote:
Herbie J wrote:
One of the hardest things to do is to change peoples perceptions. Bikes get all the bad publicity nowadays and sadly its due to the increase in number on the roads and the fact that the deaths are not only a high % of that road user group but are highly publicised. Yet the biggest killer by far is on 4 wheels not 2. I remember a local news report some time ago about the number of dead so far on the county roads ( I believe the figure was about 17 at the time) they quickly went strait to the fact that 4 were bikers then went on commenting about police focus on bikes which took everyones focus away from the 13 killed in cars or by cars. Statistically bikes are dangerous, numerically cars are more dangerous.
Yeah I had a feeling you were going to get a dig in against cars, should have thought as much
The reason is probably because there are more cars than motorbikes. And can't you motorcycle guys just stop attacking cars for once!?
Car drivers and bike riders both have engines which the government seems to be venemently against; we should bloody well team up for christ's sake! Car enthusiasts appreciate enjoying driving just like riders enjoy riding, we have much in common, stop being foolish by fighting with people who have similar interests to yourself as a biker.
I dont do digs, I make valid points....did you know that the vast (and I mean VAST) majority of our young people and kiddies are killed in or by cars? Did you know that the majority of animal deaths on our roads are by 4 wheelers not bikes? And even though the average speed of traffic has fallen dramatically over the yrs but the fatality rates I have just mentioned involving cars remains virtually the same if not increased? Did you know that the vast majority of uninsured vehs are cars, the vast majority of un taxed vehs are cars, the most common veh involved in crime is a car and did you know that the majority of un roadworthy vehs on our roads are cars and the vast majority of drink drivers...you guessed it..cars?
If I wanted to have a dig as you say it wouldnt be difficult.And you are inaccurate with your reasoning, its not simply a case of more cars on road, if you look at the % figures of just the factors Ive given here you might get a surprise.Its about safety issues here not about shouting naa naa na naa naa! across the playground.Why would I be anti car when I drive one?
My concern is safety and not joining a pact of government descentors.Bikers are killed due to their vulnerability after the crash occurs, maybe instant maybe later but cars have introduced more safety features than apollo missions over the yrs, reduced speeds overall and have a lovely shell to protect them yet they still keep those death figures up there with the best!
What should I say? 'Bikers get dead when they crash, Cars are wonderful safe things arent they?') If you dont want to hear about stats/facts and opinions involving cars and you are feel people are picking on the poor car driver I think you expect the wrong things from a forum of this type.