On Vine prog today.
Do use LISTEN AGAIN
I have to say IG does know his stuff as it does confirm what he post on the thread where the texting driver hit the red light jumping cyclist.
If you recall .. IG passed comment that it was the act of actually reading message whilst driving which can constiture "using the handy". We contest that she may not have been using the device at point of impact.. und there are perhaps still some avenues open to her to appeal there... but these will be points of law for the courts really
But.. per the Vine prog . und Loophole Freeman claim he could argue the toss on this one too on the prog.. just after 1 pm news if you like to listen again to it.
But NUB.. I am being long winded again..sorry..
He had phone in back pocket whilst driving. It dig into his bottom. He fish out und chuck on dash. Passing police car see this. They accuse of using phone. Only this phone switched off

It become similar ot placing purse,. wallet .. keys.. block of choc on dash. Would this be viewed the same if same action but not a handy?
It boil down perhaps to same as law if you sleep off hangover in car in a camp site. There ist the intent. All it take to activate phone ist a push button after all
Acting sergeant from Surrey phone the prog.. to say it common sense judgement on part of officer.. which again back IG who state his team do apply this common sense dependent on what seen.
But I post for comment from all side of fence for debate. All comment welcome.