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g_attrill
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 02:19 
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Spotted by PeteG at traffic-answers.com:

At http://www.clevelandsafetycameras.co.uk/index2.html in "Questions & Answers":

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How do I know what the speed limit is?

All roads in this country are subject to a 30-mph speed limit unless there are signs to tell you it is a higher limit. This is done by repeater signs along the road, telling you what the limit is. If you cannot see such a sign you must always assume that the speed limit is 30 mph. If there is a system of street lighting on a road then again the speed limit will be 30 mph unless repeater signs indicate it is higher.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 09:46 
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Typical of Mick Bennett! :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 09:56 
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g_attrill wrote:
Spotted by PeteG at traffic-answers.com:

At http://www.clevelandsafetycameras.co.uk/index2.html in "Questions & Answers":

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How do I know what the speed limit is?

All roads in this country are subject to a 30-mph speed limit unless there are signs to tell you it is a higher limit. This is done by repeater signs along the road, telling you what the limit is. If you cannot see such a sign you must always assume that the speed limit is 30 mph. If there is a system of street lighting on a road then again the speed limit will be 30 mph unless repeater signs indicate it is higher.


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Sounds like dangerous, ignorant advice to me.

So, a rural A road with no street lighting. The speed limit is thirty becuase there are no signs? What rubbish.

We need to send them a copy of the highway code.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 13:18 
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Clearly they are confusing their wet-dream with reality. Blanket 30 MPH limits unless told otherwise? They wish!

In fact, I'm sure some of them would like it to be 20....
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technically they are correct though?
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mpaton2004 wrote:
technically they are correct though?


No, only roads with street lighting need repeaters if the limit is not 30mph. Someone needs to point out this mistake to them.
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The whole paragraph must be scrapped - the only way to explain the NSL is using the table from the HC because the limits are different depending on the type of road and vehicle being driven. To explain the 30mph limit wording such as this is used: "built-up areas are subject to a 30mph speed limit, these
can be identified by the use of regularly spaced street lamps"

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guron83 wrote:
mpaton2004 wrote:
technically they are correct though?


No, only roads with street lighting need repeaters if the limit is not 30mph. Someone needs to point out this mistake to them.


Someone did. Emailed Mick Bennet and I'll post his reply if I get one. I don't hold much hope - can't believe he's still in the office at 3pm on a Friday.

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I have had a response from Mick, I'll not post it as it is between me and him so it would be rude to post the response.

I have emailed back with a couple of suggestions that I think would make the statement more factually correct and improve the goal of advice to those that need it.

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Good point about etiquette. Thanks.

He wrote back to me also, with a very detailed and interesting reply. He said that statement was based on the Road Traffic Act & Road Traffic Regulation Act which states that restricted roads have a limit of 30 unless a Road Traffic Order exists to increase it.

If you forget about derestricted roads completely then what they say is correct (I think) to the point of law if not practicality. But if you do consider derestricted roads (and you have to) then the highway code is a better guide.
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It looks like some other SCP's have lifted their text (or vice-versa), although it appears to have been removed from the D&G page and replaced with:

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How fast can I go?

The speed limit for any road is the maximum speed a vehicle should be travelling at. You should always drive at or below the posted speed limit.


*Slaps cheek* well I never! Very helpful answer there.

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