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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:59 
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When caught speeding you are asked to submit your documents to the nearest police station. Does anyone know if you can get points on your license or if its just a standard fine if you do not present a valid MOT certificate?


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I think the first question has to be WHY can't you produce the certificate?

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Well being a naive 18 year old i presumed that having a service constituted having an MOT. Stupid i know but i'm panicing now having never committed a crime in my life. My MOT was up 2 months a go but is booked in for tomorrow. Wereas i need to produce my documents by tonight.


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It'll only be a fine for having no MOT. Use it as a learning experience.


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Even if you had the MOT booked for today, the offence offured before it was valid.

I don't know what the outcome will be TBH although I'm sure someone else will post some advice. It might be (and I'm guessing here) that they'll be leniant with you in light of the fact that you've got a MOT booked - you MIGHT be able to convince them that you genuinely didn't know. I don't know what the standard penalty is.

Sorry I can't be of more help, but my advise is to be aware of all your relavent dates and make sure you don't end up in this situation again. :wink:

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In the old days, it would have been worth your while explaining that you have been having the car serviced properly, but didn't understand the details of the MoT requirement.

These days I doubt it'd help, but it can't do any harm to phone the cop who issued the 'producer' and explain it to him. If he's a good guy he might let you off with a warning.

After all it's only a 'document' offence - it's not as if you were driving a 'scrapper' (by the sounds of it).

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Thanks for the advice guys it's put my mind at ease a little. I only had it serviced 2 months ago so its very road worthy. The car's only 4 years old so its not like its falling apart.

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If your car is not that long without an MOT then go and get one , contact the officer who issued HO/RT/1 or ticket hopefully he will look at it and see that it has passed and if it did not need any work doing which would have rendered the car unroadworthy at the time, then one would hope he will just advise for future, that's what I do.

If not then if you go to court and getted found not guilty then the punishment will be in the region of around £30 to £50 fine and NO POINTS.
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Stephen wrote:
If your car is not that long without an MOT then go and get one , contact the officer who issued HO/RT/1 or ticket hopefully he will look at it and see that it has passed and if it did not need any work doing which would have rendered the car unroadworthy at the time, then one would hope he will just advise for future, that's what I do.


:clap1: Proper policing - that's what we need. :yesyes: :thumbsup:

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Looking at this post takes me back a good few years -----circa 1970 i was stopped by PC rookie - admitidly i had neglected to remove the L plates from my car after giving my sister some practice time on the roads. I was 21 and my idea of peeeeeing off a folowing police car in those days was to drive at 25 and force him to pass.
Please produce your docs at you're local police station , within 7 days.
No problem - car legal - me driving licence off for renewal, and i worked for a large govt dept that paid for my licence.I would take a lot of time to get it back from Swansea , never mind our office.
Now step in Sgt xx ( my local bobby (very local , he lived as next door as you could get) -----i'd told PC rookie that i'd present my docs there - so off i trod to see the good SGT - "knew you were legal he says , glancing at my insurance/mot - i've even seen your licence (wink wink ) , but i've got to actually see it - but i can hold up things till you get it renewed - even phone Swansea .

Ah - the old days - when cops were cops ( and some gave directions leaning against a railing and pointing with a boot :o )( An old commedien ---Andy Stewart used this as a joke in one old routine , but trust me the story is based on trurh)

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Stephen wrote:
If your car is not that long without an MOT then go and get one , contact the officer who issued HO/RT/1 or ticket hopefully he will look at it and see that it has passed and if it did not need any work doing which would have rendered the car unroadworthy at the time, then one would hope he will just advise for future, that's what I do.

If not then if you go to court and getted found not guilty then the punishment will be in the region of around £30 to £50 fine and NO POINTS.
Stephen


So I do 35 in a 30 and get 3 points - but if my car's not roadworthy I don't get any????

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Graeme wrote:
So I do 35 in a 30 and get 3 points - but if my car's not roadworthy I don't get any????


Nah. If you car isn't roadworthy you should expect to prosecuted for the vehicle defect.

The MoT isn't evidence of roadworthyness. It's just a document...

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If you look on the front of the [new] mot, it says that just because you HAVE an mot it doesn't mean the cars roadworthy.


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