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[Working from the headline]

I think the school run shows as a road safety benefit because the kids are safer in the vehicles than they would be crossing roads.

We've seen a sustained decline in pedestrian fatalities that I believe is mainly associated with a reduction in pedestrian activity. The growth in the school run is an example.

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IMO, this is yet more stereotyping that is likely to incite social hatred.
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SCHOOL RUN 'A ROAD MENACE'
Boy racers have been voted the biggest menace on our roads - closely followed by school-run drivers and older motorists.

Bad driving habits were also revealed in the poll of road users, with one in four admitting using a mobile at the wheel.

Motorists also confessed to eating of reading maps while driving, trying to put on make-up or having a pet loose in the car.

Two out of three motorists broke the speed limit in the past year - with men more likely to drive too fast, according to the study of more than 2,200 adults by Budget Van Insurance. Van and lorry drivers and cyclists were only described as hazardous by 5 per cent of those polled.

Emma Maziak, of Budget Van Insurance, said: "It's amazing to see that so many of us take risks on the road given the increase in traffic around, and new legislation to penalise us.

"The fall-out from accidents related to bad driving habits can have a big impact on insurance premiums. It's good to see that van drivers come out well - and are not seen by the vast majority as hazardous drivers."

Hardly an unbiased, scientific study :roll:

Edited to remove a couple of typos - please excuse any that remain!

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The school run wouldn’t be such a problem if parents dropped/picked up their kids near school, as opposed to directly in front of it. However, thanks to the IMO disproportionate media scare coverage of sex offenders parents now prefer to go all the way, hence creating the hotspot at arguably the most dangerous of places.


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smeggy wrote:
The school run wouldn’t be such a problem if parents dropped/picked up their kids near school, as opposed to directly in front of it.


That's nothing, I had to have words with one parent last week when he drove into the school, onto the (large) paved area outside the door and right up to the school entrance.


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The school run wouldn’t be such a problem if parents dropped/picked up their kids near school, as opposed to directly in front of it.
So true. Some think the zig-zags are reserved places for them to park I'm sure.


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What makes me laugh is where my aunty lives is not far from a school. Residents around the area got up a petition to stop school runners from parking on the local roads causing mayhem (the roads arn't very wide). The council painted double yellow lines everywhere to keep the residents quite, the school runners still park everywhere on the double yellow lines, nobody from the council monitors what’s going on.

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Why is it that schools insist that parents are barred from driving into the school carpark/playground - safely off the road - to drop their offspring. Wouldn't this be better than blocking up all the roads?

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According to my local council they don't want to encourage the school run; that's why they don't do anything to deal with the chaos outside my local primary school every morning and evening.

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MrsMiggins wrote:
According to my local council they don't want to encourage the school run; that's why they don't do anything to deal with the chaos outside my local primary school every morning and evening.


That’s what I believe it’s all about, it’s not about road safety it’s about making the roads as unpleasant as possible and they’re not bothered who gets hurt in the meantime.

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Why is it that schools insist that parents are barred from driving into the school carpark/playground - safely off the road - to drop their offspring. Wouldn't this be better than blocking up all the roads?


Very few schools have the space for a large number of cars to drive road. Most schools car parks are overcrowed with the cars the for the staff.
My school is accessed by a single lane. We had to stop parents dropping off their offspring in school. It is a complete nightmare. We had had the police around because paerents park on the zig zags, etc.

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The biggest problem is at the end of the day. The road infront of the school becomes single lane, there are buses, pupils(and parents) with little or no awarness of danger.

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Dixie wrote:
What makes me laugh is where my aunty lives is not far from a school. Residents around the area got up a petition to stop school runners from parking on the local roads causing mayhem (the roads arn't very wide). The council painted double yellow lines everywhere to keep the residents quite, the school runners still park everywhere on the double yellow lines, nobody from the council monitors what’s going on.


I live opposite a primary school and we raised numerous objections aiming to stop the council enforcing a "safer routes to school" scheme. Our reasoning was based on there being a lack of pavements in the area.

The council's response was they were acting to meet a government target for such schemes, despite there being no local demand. The scheme was therefore implemented and we now have vast swathes of yellow lines, squiggles and railings, a 20mph limit, humps, and vast numbers of kids walking in the roadway accompanied by very anxious parents. These parents had previously unloaded their offspring onto a 50-yard long stretch of pavement near the school and leading directly into it. Needless to say, it is now included in the "no stopping zone".

When I leave home in the morning I now have to navigate my car through a sea of school children.

While some parents still ignore the yellow perils, a traffic warden turns up on a moped about one morning a week to try and bolster his revenue target.

The irony of it now being a "less safe route to school" for children has been lost on the council jobsworths


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