Safe Speed Forums

The campaign for genuine road safety
It is currently Thu Jul 09, 2026 23:29

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 08:41 
Offline
Friend of Safe Speed
Friend of Safe Speed
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 19:50
Posts: 3369
Location: Lost in the Wilderness
Daily Telegraph

Quote:
Brown prepares to raise duty on petrol

By George Jones and Toby Helm
Last Updated: 7:04am GMT 06/12/2006Page 1 of 5

Image
A rise in line with inflation would add 5.68p a gallon - 1.25p a
litre to unleaded, or 6.68p a gallon -1.47p a litre with VAT

Video: What to expect from the PBR
Pre-Budget Report checklist
Your view: Gordon Brown - saint or sinner?
Background and analysis: Pre-Budget Report 2006
Motorists face a rise in petrol prices today as the Chancellor, Gordon Brown, demonstrates his green credentials in his final pre-Budget statement.

He is preparing to announce the first fuel duty rise for three years, returning to the policy of raising tax on petrol and diesel in line with inflation.

Duties have been frozen since October 2003 because of oil market volatility, which pushed unleaded petrol close to the £1-a-litre barrier (£4.54 a gallon) in the summer.

The price peaked at 98.54p a litre (£4.48 a gallon) but has since fallen back to 86.17p a litre (£3.92). Average diesel price is 91.69p a litre (£4.17).

Mr Brown continued the freeze in his Budget last March and extended it in July, saying he would review the position in the pre-Budget report.

Raising duties in line with inflation would add 5.68p a gallon (1.25p a litre) to unleaded, or 6.68p a gallon (1.47p a litre) with VAT. The increase would also apply to diesel. Treasury sources last night ruled out "sweeping" new green taxes or a return to the previous policy of the fuel duty "escalator" which raised duty above inflation and gave Britain some of the highest petrol and diesel prices in Europe.

But they indicated that the recent stabilisation of oil prices and the need to take action to curb pollution justified ending the fuel duty freeze and taking a modest step towards raising the cost of motoring.

Mr Brown abolished the "escalator" in summer 1999 - before the widespread fuel protests over the cost of petrol and diesel, which led to blockades outside refineries and long queues at the pumps.

He then froze the duty in his November 2000 pre-Budget report, and also cut the duty on green petrol and diesel.

He had hoped to increase it in line with inflation in subsequent years but was forced to reintroduce the freeze in 2003 because of growing unease over rising fuel prices. Fuel duty has increased by only 45.6p a gallon (10p a litre) since 1997, or 25 per cent over the entire period.

Because of discounts for cleaner low-sulphur fuels over the past seven years, the duty on the main types of petrol and diesel is fractionally lower now in cash terms, at £2.14 a gallon (47.1p per litre), than in 1999 when it was £2.15 a gallon (47.21p per litre).

David Handley from Farmers for Action which helped organise the fuel protests in 2000, said last night that any rise in prices would hit industry and agriculture hard. "We are under tremendous cost pressure already," he said.

Mr Brown is likely to cite the Stern report on the environment, which called for new green taxes on cars, fuel and air travel to curb pollution, for the decision to lift the freeze.

The Tories say the proportion of tax raised in green levies has fallen from 9.4 per cent in 1997 to 7.7 per cent.

Ruth Bridger, the AA Motoring Trust's petrol price analyst, said the Chancellor needed to remember that his duty freeze had ensured that "the Pandora's Box of motorist protest remained shut".

But it will be announced today that sales of 4x4 vehicles have slumped by six per cent in a year following threatened tax rises and campaigning against "gas guzzlers".

The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders reports that "Chelsea Tractors" purchases dropped by 15 per cent last month. The second-hand value has also collapsed.

The Chancellor is expected to announce a rise in air passenger duty, which stands at £5 for budget flightsand £40 for business and first-class.

He has been pressing electricity and gas companies to offer more discounts to older customers hit by rising prices. But ministers played down suggestions that Mr Brown was considering raising the £200 winter fuel payment.

The Chancellor is expected to claim that growth will reach 2.6 per cent this year - better than the 2 to 2.5 per cent he predicted in the Budget.

The Tories claimed the figure was still below the EU average, with Britain placed 22nd out of the 25 members.

The Conservatives claimed last night that rising unemployment had cost the taxpayer £1.7 billion in benefit payments and lost taxation. The number out of work and claiming benefit has risen by 300,000 to 1.7 million.

According to the Tories, unemployment had risen faster in Britain than anywhere else in the developed world. George Osborne, the shadow chancellor, said: "This is £1.7 billion that could have been spent on schools and hospitals. It is the cost of social failure under Labour."

Mr Osborne said Britain's finances were "in a mess" and Mr Brown was planning to borrow £138 billion by 2011, more than £6,000 per family.

The Chancellor is also expected to reaffirm plans to spend billions on a major drive to revamp thousands of schools.

The investment, which will benefit up to 21,000 schools, will be financed by increased fuel duty.

Mr Brown is also likely to announce controls on the use of outside consultants by government departments, which costs £3 billion a year, while details of the consultancy contracts will also have to be made available to MPs.

This will pre-empt a National Audit Office report into the bill for consultants - estimated by some observers at £70 billion under New Labour.

In future, ministers will have to have Treasury authorisation before they can hire advisors and specialists in place of civil servants.

Mr Brown will also order Whitehall departments to slash administration costs by five per cent in real terms as part of a drive to increase efficiency.

In another initiative to be flagged today, organised gangs behind the pirating of films and music will be faced with prison sentences of up to 10 years.

Following the Gowers report, which called for tougher action on the abuse of copyright laws, Mr Brown will give his backing to action against criminals who peddle counterfeit CDs and DVDs or use websites to sell stolen films and music downloaded from the internet.

_________________
Useless laws weaken necessary laws.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 14:03 
Offline
User

Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 15:14
Posts: 420
Location: Aberdeenshire
A small diversion here:

Why must authorities always spend everything they get?

The comment of "That 1.7 billion could have been spent on........." is what caught my eye.

The LA's annual dash to throw away all the remaining budget before the end of the financial year is another.

Why not give it back to the taxpayers??? Is that really such a daft idea? I might not grudge taxes so much if the authorities gave back what they didn't need at the end of the year, rather than pouring it down the drain just to ensure they don't get their budgets cut.

Some people may see the above 1.7 billion as being extra money for hospitals and schools. I see it as a rebate for the taxpayer. :?

The tax can still be the same next year and the hospitals can have the money then if they really need it.

Maybe the government wants to focus their attention on the efficiency of their spending, rather than purely collecting money to waste?



I'm sure we all know from our personal lives that getting pay rises doesn't solve bad financial management. One simply wastes whatever one has. Wealth is gained by restricting spending, not earning more.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 18:03 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2004 14:26
Posts: 4364
Location: Hampshire/Wiltshire Border
I always get riled when newspapers/radio tell you what such-and-such a politician "will say" later. Why don't they just wait until they say it and then report it. This avoids all the speculation.

At one time, the Budget was in March and allowed no time to implement any measures by the 6th April. The Budget was then moved to November to avoid this.

Brown has moved it back to March but has this pre-announcement in December. Why doesn't the pr*t just do the Budget in full right now?

_________________
Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 19:20 
Offline
Friend of Safe Speed
Friend of Safe Speed
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 23:09
Posts: 6737
Location: Stockport, Cheshire
Ah well, he did raise it by 1.25p/litre, which after adding VAT is likely to be 2p at the pumps :x

It had been widely trailed that he was going to impose a further increase in VED on "gas-guzzling" (i.e. ordinary) cars, but that didn't happen - he's probably saving it for the Budget proper.

_________________
"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 00:13 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 23:26
Posts: 9268
Location: Treacletown ( just north of M6 J3),A MILE OR TWO PAST BEDROCK
And now can i say "told you so " WRT the arguements that the all gave into over global warming".

Brown set out his stall - pitched his arguemnets - who sttod up against him - precious few - thats why he tried it on -----so to tthose that bought the kings ( or in this case the chancellors ) new clothes -

I say - "thanks for costing me more to get to work" - it was nice to see how you defended the interests of the motorists - perhaps next time i' know how we stand. :roll:


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 00:42 
Offline
User

Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2006 00:51
Posts: 160
and still there is no proof that global warming is anything more than a natural Phenomenon?...................................... :evil:

_________________
Welcome to the UK, the Land of "Selective Freedoms"


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 09:09 
Offline
User

Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2005 16:37
Posts: 265
malcolmw wrote:
I always get riled when newspapers/radio tell you what such-and-such a politician "will say" later. Why don't they just wait until they say it and then report it. This avoids all the speculation.


They do this because the press release for the speech is issued before the speech is made. However, they have to use the future tense as it has been known for politicians to divert from the pre-written text.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:04 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 23:42
Posts: 200
Location: Milton Keynes
patdavies wrote:
They do this because the press release for the speech is issued before the speech is made. However, they have to use the future tense as it has been known for politicians to divert from the pre-written text.


Maybe so, but they pull the same trick when they're saying what research studies are 'going to' report.

This strategy of announcing news in advance means that if there's a strong reaction to it that can be played down by saying that the report isn't out yet so we can't comment. Then when the report does come out, it's old news. I'm sure that's just a happy coincidence though and not part of a deliberate strategy to manage the news media.

_________________
Peter Humphries (and a green V8S)


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 18:30 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2004 16:34
Posts: 923
Location: UK
Price at Sainsbury's today was 85.5, was 83.9 previously. I suspect this will rise to 85.9 very soon.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 20:00 
Offline
Life Member
Life Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2005 14:00
Posts: 1271
Location: Near Telford, UK / Barcelona, Spain
All the garages round here have put 2p on their prices...

_________________
"Politicians are the same the world over... We build bridges where there aren't any rivers." - Nikita Kruschev


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 21:23 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 23:26
Posts: 9268
Location: Treacletown ( just north of M6 J3),A MILE OR TWO PAST BEDROCK
[quote="patdavies
They do this because the press release for the speech is issued before the speech is made. However, they have to use the future tense as it has been known for politicians to divert from the pre-written text.[/quote]

And the truth - oops - don't they just do that anyway.

Two garages i use - one was 84.9 now 86.5, other was 86.9, now 87.9 - funny how i have to queuee on the first - not a supermart BTW, just an Esso.

Quote:
Mr Brown continued the freeze in his Budget last March and extended it in July, saying he would review the position in the pre-Budget report.



Now with all the extra law enforcement bodies ,new laws (and perhaps troops returning ) does he now feel confidant that he can stave off blocades of refineries if the anti lobby gets active again - or has he forgotten the problems of before ????


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 01:28 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 01:42
Posts: 686
[propaganda compliance mode]
So fuel tax is going up again.

Oh well, I guess we should count ourselves fortunate. I'd rather have a fuel tax rise than road pricing...

[/propaganda compliance mode]

:no: :x :x :x :x :grumpy: :headache:

_________________
“For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong.” - H. L. Mencken


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 01:41 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 02:02
Posts: 258
Location: Northern Ireland
Garage I tend to use (due to tesco's unbelieveable queue) went from 83.9 to 84.9 late last week, it's now up to about 86.9, and will probably drop to 85.9 or 84.9 in a week or so... Usually how their prices go... Depends what tesco do too I suppose...

_________________
Mike


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 68 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You can post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.041s | 11 Queries | GZIP : Off ]