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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 13:47 
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When I joined this website, some 19 months ago, Paul claimed that he had spent 5000 hours working (or as it was stated elsewhere on the site, "thinking") on his campaign.

In This thread he now claims 20,000 hours.

Based on the facts provided, that means that in 19 months he has spent 15,000 hours working.

That's around 32.9 days a month, 24 hours a day.

Being charitable, maybe the web page 19 months ago was out of date ... so he "left" his job in 2003 to work on the campaign, if that was January 2003 it works out an average of over 17 24 hour days a month for 4 years, or 13.69 hours every day for 4 years.

Call me a cynic, but I don't believe it.

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handy wrote:
When I joined this website, some 19 months ago, Paul claimed that he had spent 5000 hours working (or as it was stated elsewhere on the site, "thinking") on his campaign.

In This thread he now claims 20,000 hours.

Based on the facts provided, that means that in 19 months he has spent 15,000 hours working.

That's around 32.9 days a month, 24 hours a day.

Being charitable, maybe the web page 19 months ago was out of date ... so he "left" his job in 2003 to work on the campaign, if that was January 2003 it works out an average of over 17 24 hour days a month for 4 years, or 13.69 hours every day for 4 years.

Call me a cynic, but I don't believe it.


Suit yourself. But you have your sums wrong somewhere.

I do about 80 hours in the average week, which is 4,160 hours per year.

I've been full time for four years now.

I did put in 5,000 hours before I went full time.

Allowing for a couple of weeks off each year - and I haven't taken a holiday at all - I make that around 21,000 hours total as of now.

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Well done handy, this is exactly the type of pedantic approach we need to get beneath the official SCP 'Stats'!!

It's good to see a fellow pedant out there,I'm not alone!!


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80 hours per week, every week, for 4 years?

The effect of long hours working on productivity was proved during WW1 when they found that productivity increased in munitions factories by reducing the weekly hours from 60 hours to 50 hours. A study which has been reproduced several times.

In terms of quality of output, I know from my own staff that continued (as opposed to the occasional, concerted effort) extended hours work means that the quality steadily falls, 80 hours a week would quickly lead to garb ... ah-ha, yes, I see it now ...

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80 hours per week, every week, for 4 years?

The effect of long hours working on productivity was proved during WW1 when they found that productivity increased in munitions factories by reducing the weekly hours from 60 hours to 50 hours. A study which has been reproduced several times.

In terms of quality of output, I know from my own staff that continued (as opposed to the occasional, concerted effort) extended hours work means that the quality steadily falls, 80 hours a week would quickly lead to garb ... ah-ha, yes, I see it now ...


I've got a couple of big advantages over your staff. For a start I don't travel to work - well a couple of dozen feet. With an average journey to work at 30 mins there and back again, that's five hours a week.

Then I don't sleep much. 4 hours a night is normal. So that's a 28 hour per week advantage over and above someone who sleeps 8 hours per night.

So someone who sleeps 8 hours per night, works 40 hours and travels to work for 5 hours has 67 hours a week free.

I have 60 hours a week free. 168-((4*7)+80).

It's no big deal.

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Whats your point here handy, are you just trying to pick a fight? Thats known as 'trolling' on internet fora, and is not permitted here.


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Whats your point here handy, are you just trying to pick a fight? Thats known as 'trolling' on internet fora, and is not permitted here.


To be fair, I don't think Handy is 'trolling'. I think he thought he found a flaw, miscalculated and posted. I've set him straight and that should be good enough.

I certainly don't mind if someone wants to question my claims.

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handy wrote:
The effect of long hours working on productivity was proved during WW1 when they found that productivity increased in munitions factories by reducing the weekly hours from 60 hours to 50 hours. A study which has been reproduced several times.

In terms of quality of output, I know from my own staff that continued (as opposed to the occasional, concerted effort) extended hours work means that the quality steadily falls, 80 hours a week would quickly lead to garb ... ah-ha, yes, I see it now ...


Is this the explanation for the garbage coming out of the House of Commons and the Government?

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malcolmw wrote:
handy wrote:
The effect of long hours working on productivity was proved during WW1 when they found that productivity increased in munitions factories by reducing the weekly hours from 60 hours to 50 hours. A study which has been reproduced several times.

In terms of quality of output, I know from my own staff that continued (as opposed to the occasional, concerted effort) extended hours work means that the quality steadily falls, 80 hours a week would quickly lead to garb ... ah-ha, yes, I see it now ...


Is this the explanation for the garbage coming out of the House of Commons and the Government?


Or the old story of Garbage in ( MPs) begets garbage out ( their utterings :o


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malcolmw wrote:
handy wrote:
The effect of long hours working on productivity was proved during WW1 when they found that productivity increased in munitions factories by reducing the weekly hours from 60 hours to 50 hours. A study which has been reproduced several times.

In terms of quality of output, I know from my own staff that continued (as opposed to the occasional, concerted effort) extended hours work means that the quality steadily falls, 80 hours a week would quickly lead to garb ... ah-ha, yes, I see it now ...


Is this the explanation for the garbage coming out of the House of Commons and the Government?


No, because they don't "work" enough hours for it to apply to them.

Their garbage is, I'm afraid, the best ideas they have.

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